Combines Changing colors

big_orange

Guest
I run a R-62 with CDF rotor,averaging 3300 bu_hr with no mods and not on tabletop ground either, will a 9660 STS do that without leaving a srip of yellow behind the machine. Same combine with 25' table will cut 15 acres_hr in soys. 225 bu corn and 60 bu beans.
 

Deere4life

Guest
I don't know the exact numbers but I'm guessing Deere heads out number huggers.... 15 or 20 to 1.
 

R_O_M

Guest
It is amazing what a bit of paint can do. JD were really lucky to latch onto that green paint colour because underneath they are just another conglomeration of iron and plastic like all the others and they don't perform any better for being painted green. Paint those JD lumps of iron and plastic a bright pink or purple and those same devoted one eyed deere followers wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. It is also quite a blight on the deere owners who generally, like farmers everywhere, are a decent bunch of guys, or even for deere for that matter, that a tiny minority of deere owners seem to deliberately set out to denigrate and trash other makes for seemingly no other reason than to try and boost their own tiny egos! Must give them a good feeling especially when all they get is contempt for their nastiness from the owners of the other colours. Probably says a lot about their personalities!
 

Deere4life

Guest
I know, that's why we traded our green one in for a new 8010. Just informing those that may not know just how many more green heads there are out there compared to huggers, and that's a direct result of John Deere outselling Gleaner for the past 20-25 years. That's all. I'm not a Deere owner anymore, but I still realize Gleaners have "room to improve".
 

Illinois_Gleaner

Guest
Just because there are more sold does not make something better. I would bet that you could have 90 % Deere owners drive a different color anything,prove it is better,sell it cheaper,and they still wouldnt buy the other color.And dont give me the resale thing that deere has blown up everyones rearend for the last 20 years either.The resale on a silver one is just as good if not better then any other color IG
 

MostlyGreen

Guest
Gee Tom, we haven't had those problems with our 9660 and we've logged 1312 seperator hours and, unlike our R72, we don't have to mortgage a farm when we DO have to buy green parts. I will say, though, that when the R72 is running at her prime, she has NO problems keeping up to the Deere.
 

NDDan

Guest
In our area most Green to Silver converts come from a switch from conventional to rotary. Most STS's in our area get switched back and forth with green dealers every couple years. I see plenty of air reels on JD so I would imagine the orbit reel and full finger auger would benifit just the same as Gleaner. I had to laugh when the first 7" Gleaner augers come around. The hard core JD guys were driving along them like a hawk to try figure out how that auger header could handle so much straw. Anyway if a guy compares apple to apples you could pick on this that or the other thing on all machines. My theory is if I can take a bone stock machine and make it better I will. There has got to be just as many green guys persueing the same thing with good bad or otherwise results. If Gleaner hears or gets the results of some of these in field improvements you will see as stock equipment eventially. In my opinion a couple upgrades can make the Gleaner Natural Flow as forgiving in any crop or condition as anything out there. Couple that up with the extreme ease to switch between any crops and you have something.
 

NDDan

Guest
In our area most Green to Silver converts come from a switch from conventional to rotary. Most STS's in our area get switched back and forth with green dealers every couple years. I see plenty of air reels on JD so I would imagine the orbit reel and full finger auger would benifit just the same as Gleaner. I had to laugh when the first 7" Gleaner augers come around. The hard core JD guys were driving along them like a hawk to try figure out how that auger header could handle so much straw. Anyway if a guy compares apple to apples you could pick on this that or the other thing on all machines. My theory is if I can take a bone stock machine and make it better I will. There has got to be just as many green guys persueing the same thing with good bad or otherwise results. If Gleaner hears or gets the results of some of these in field improvements you will see as stock equipment eventially. In my opinion a couple upgrades can make the Gleaner Natural Flow as forgiving in any crop or condition as anything out there. Couple that up with the extreme ease to switch between any crops and you have something.
 

Marshaltown_Farms

Guest
Have always run silver combines and green tractors as my main machines. I have had trouble with both from time to time. Don't think one will ever find any color that does not break down . What I have noticed is that it is alot harder to convince the green side that there is a problem. I can't get the local green guys to help even close to as much as a gleaner two states away in North Dakota. Service means more to me than color.
 

MostlyGreen

Guest
I find that resale is often directly proportional to the level of service the local dealers provide. For example, CAT sells strong in regions where they're well supported, yet prove to have a substantially lower resale value in other regions. I believe what has helped Deere maintain what resale value they have had is due to the fact that they seem to have a well-supported dealer network, and they seem to have ample coverage geographically. The biggest reasons we started "buying green" was thier customer service level and choice of dealers within our local area, the latter benefit of which we're about to lose with all the dealer amalgamations taking place.