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[Illinois_Gleaner]

I have never thought of resale in the way you stated it. But there are always green guys no matter where you go. There are alot of areas that you couldnt give a gleaner away,because of lack of dealer. I think you are right there. If you have a good dealer,in that area,there is always going to be good resale. You would think Agco would catch on to that,and add some dealers in some areas where they dont have any.Instead we dont have one now,and Agco wont give it to a New Holland dealer that wants it. They want a stand alone Agco dealer. Yea right!! IG

 

[MostlyGreen]

I have a hunch that AGCO is both, concentrating on supporting thier EXISTING dealer network by amalgamating thier numerous brands under single dealerships, and "stroking" the CAT dealer network on the Challenger side. Afterall, the CAT dealer network already has a rapport for excellent sales and service. Establishing new dealerships are costly and time-consuming ventures, often with unproven results. Within the last year, we've had a prominent MF dealer assume an AGCO_Gleaner franchise, and my brother and I are hopeful that this will give our only local remaining AGCO dealer some keen competition. It's unfortunate that they wouldn't allow your local New Holland dealer to become a dealer. He obviously has a track-record of success.

 

[Illinois_Gleaner]

The stupid thing about Agco not letting them have dealership. They have another store about 50 miles away,and it is a Agco_New Holland dealership. IG

 

[hunter]

Always easier to run someone elses business. What you do not know about the machinery business is probably legend.

 

[Illinois_Gleaner]

Thanks hunter. What machinery are you building these days that makes you the no it all on machinery ,since I know nothing about it. I didnt say I knew the machinery buisness. But I know there was a pretty good share of Silver combines and orange tractors in this area,now with no dealer for 50 miles they are all now turning up on the green,red and blue lots. IG

 

[Mike]

IG, not sure where you are but here in SW Il we have the same trouble. We have a real good Gleaner dealer who I think does a good job with the orange tractors, but don't seem to be in the same country when you talk planters. 30 miles away we have what is probably a good Massey and White planter dealer who is aggressive with those lines. 30 miles away we have a NH dealer who is probably more interested in selling blue_yellow than orange and silver. AGCO has given all these brands to every dealer, but in my eyes they have totally confused the market with dealers who are selling basically new products to them. It seems like prices vary so much from dealer to dealer you feel like you have to shop around just to make sure you're getting a good deal. We used to run White planters and never shopped another color until we priced an 8523 3 years ago and got 3 prices on a trade difference that ranged $15,000 between 3 dealers. We got prices on blue planters from 2 dealers and even trading in our White planter they were within $3000 of each other. JD and Case seem to be in touch with dealers for sales, service and parts much more than AGCO is with theirs. AGCO has some good dealers, but every year we see a couple in the state sell out and they are not replaced.

 

[hunter]

IG wrote: "Thanks hunter. What machinery are you building these days that makes you the no it all on machinery ,since I know nothing about it. I didnt say I knew the machinery buisness. But I know there was a pretty good share of Silver combines and orange tractors in this area,now with no dealer for 50 miles they are all now turning up on the green,red and blue lots." I do not know what building machinery has to do with your question of why AGCO does not go to bed with a blue dealer. This is a financial business decision. Does the blue dealer have the finances necessary to carry another line and if so would they setup another location or just use the current facilityIJ I was cursed with multi line dealers in the 60's and can tell you it resulted in inadequate coverage of my line (AC). In all but one case other manufactures (mostly Oliver) moved in with my marginal (in financial terms) dealer. In nearly all cases that I was aware of in the Minnepolis Branch - multi-line dealers did not cover the full line. Short lines were not the issue it was full line manufactures moving in with our dealers. I think the model that has proved successful does not do such things to get another dealer (deere). Having been a dealer, I understand the needs for adequate financial resources if one wants to be successful in the machinery business. Perhaps you have adequate resources to get in the business and show us how to do it. bill koob madison, sd

 

[R_O_M]

Hey guys! I'm getting lonely in the cellar down here!

 

[Mike]

Show me a piece of equipment and I'll show you one that has been modified. Sometimes it's as simple as adding a light or changing the length of a fill hose or putting some protectant on a hose or line. Sometimes it's much more involved. Maybe a rotor or an A_C fan. How many times have we seen an "update kit" come out for a tractor or combine or piece of equipmentIJ I bet there's at least one update for everything. They say update kit it makes you feel like they are making it better or improving it. Ever get a recall on your carIJ I bet everyone has. A recall usually implies a defect or problem in design_build. What's the difference between a "update kit" or a recallIJ Not much in my eyes. Everything can be made better sometimes it improves eye appeal, performance or servicablity. Everyone prioritizes those in a different order based on their perceptions. If someone has an idea to make something better and they'll share that with me for free I feel pretty lucky. Green, Red, Orange or Yellow, aint none perfect and they all break and depreciate.

 

[Illinois_Gleaner]

You must be refering to Albers, Carlye, then Nashville. If I am following you IJIJIJIJIJIJIJIJIJIJIJ Mike didnt you use to Run Orange and silver from HeberIJIJIJ What have you switched to since they are goneIJ IG