Combines Class 8

RamRod

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I bring this up only because Gleaner will sooner or later bring out larger combines because the competition is doing it. I personally think most operations could care if any machines are made bigger than a "7", myself included. Except possibly for windrow use, I do not think splitting the crop would be any problem, with the rasps and higher helicals working together to split - some may go around, but an insignificant part i think. Drives could still just be on one side of rotor, and the spinner spreaders would be orbit motor only. Not too different from what we have now.
 

Illinois_Gleaner

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If they made the cylinder 1 ft wider on each side and made it bigger around.It would then make the throat 2 ft wider and,cover up that stupid auger they glue on the side of the combine.And the sheet metal still wouldnt be any wider then duals,Which is the widest part of most all of the bigger combines now anyway.Put the N14 Cummins in it,add on Mauer extensions,and there you have a R85,Might want to add bigger cylinders for the 16 row cornhead,and double the drive belts from what they are. Just dreaming I guess Illinois Gleaner
 

R_O_M

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A view from outside the U.S.A ; The U.S. corn belt, with it's immense area of extraordinarly fertile soils and it's very high yielding, high volume output can probably justify the development of much greater capacity machines. In Europe different conditions apply again which requires a different type of capacity to corn capacity. In many of the rest of the world's grain producing areas, the class 7 combines are big enough. A lot of grain crops in these areas are quite low yielding compared to corn or have very considerable cultural problems in adopting very large machinery, i.e. small land holdings and the need to employ their population and a lack of individuals able to finance the purchase of these machines. Our own problem with a R62 is that we run out of power to push the combine in ground speed. We seldom run out of capacity. Outside of the Great Plains of which I have only seen the northern areas, around Montana, the Dakotas, Minnesota, Wisconsin and others and around Winnepeg, the one area that has the potential to beat the Great Plains in extent, soils and crop production is the black earth areas of the Ukraine and the north Caucus region of Russia, which I have also seen. As the farmers of these regions catch up in technology, these immensely fertile areas may eventually be able to use the very large class 8,9 or higher capacity combines, but not for many years to come. Cheers!
 

Illinois_Gleaner

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They better put that flag at half mast then,If Agco thinks they can take my Gleaner and make me drive a Massey they are wrong.If the new tractors wasnt orange I wouldnt have one Illinois Gleaner
 

Rolf

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OK you guy's my AU$0.266 (US$0.2) worth!!!!! Have anybody got an off the factory floor R75 and compared it to a FUllY hyped R75IJ NDDan or TBran do you guy's know if this has happenIJ I would have thought that the R75 Fully Hyped would become the R85! if you look at it from a company point of view it's a cheap upgrade, and for most of us users its how it should be from the factory anyway!! For us in small grains we don't realy need the Capacity like you guy's in corn and we harvest a lot of "other" grains other than Wheat and Barley and on my little patch of Ground the hyped 94 R62 is going to have to last me a few more years as a AU$400,000 new machine would cost me around AU$16.00_acre for ten years and that's not including running cost and interest. I can see the point of a contractor wanting the biggest and best but us Grain Growers are not getting paid enough for our grain to justify the biggest and sexiest machine out there!!! Sorry had to get that off my chest I have been very temped to get my local dealer our with a Factory set-up machine and compare it in some of my wheat that I have got, but it's not a good enough year to compare (only ton hectare) but I will do it one day and it will give me a bench mark on how much performance I have gained form Hyperizing!! (I believe I have at least a R72 factory machine with our mods!!!) Rolf
 

Silver_Bullet

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Tom, I've also considered keeping each side seperate. If that would work, it would be the easier solution.
 

Quicksilver

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Gleaner should bring back the down front cylinder and make it 70 to 75 inches wide for Deere stomping power. Gee I do hate John Deere combines.
 

R_O_M

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I'm back again! Before they went broke in the late 80's, Allis Chalmers had a prototype combine with the thresher and rotary separation system, similar to the then current N series and the current Gleaner system, mounted right down at the front, behind the header as per the Allis l series and etc. When Deutz bought the old Allis outfit, Deutz thought that they were getting the new concept to develop. It was only discovered after the sale of Allis C. was completed that all the rights to the down front system was actually found to be owned by Allis Industrial which Fiat laverda from Italy had bought. laverda played with the idea for a time before giving up on it. Deutz was not happy! Deutz went on to play the money market big time, and were getting most of their profits from this source, then the money market went into one of it's regular death spirals and wiped Deutz out. Cheers!