Combines Class 8

[guido]

Ever look at the versatile ta2000 pull-type made in the mid 80's. It was similar to the concept you talk about here with material delivered to the center of a tranverse rotor. The crop wrapped 360 degrees and came out of the ends. However, this material was then fed into two separater rotors similar to the CTS. This design was never perfected as the machines weren't in production long enough. My gut feeling is that the width of the rotor would have to be greatly increased for this to work without additional separators.

 

[Illinois_Gleaner]

That what you are talking about was in the 60's before the N's. They had a G with the rotor out on the throat in the pictures that I saw. Did they do something similar later on after thatIJIJ

 

[R_O_M]

The info on the down front machine and Deutz losing out on this machine came to me personally via a very senior european Deutz executive soon after Deutz bought Allis. I believe that laverda had a some brochures out for a very short period with an illustrated cut away of the down front thresher and processor. When Deutz went belly up soon after buying Allis, there was a Management Buy Out [ around 1990 I think. ] by some of the original Allis executives who created AGCO from the ashes. Cheers!

 

[NDDan]

No new machines have went off of our lot without at least partial hyperizing for years. They have made it off of many other lots and boy have I had an ear full. A lot of hyper stuff is now included from the factory but they still have reverse bars. I believe the helical extention over feeder is now also standard. I realy think they need to send machines out without reverse bars especially when they have adjustable seperator grates. Now if you would define for me FUllY HYPED for I don't think I have one there yet. It is a work in progress. New for this year in wheat we installed many sets of what I call a basic set of rotor sweeps along with basic addition of steep pitch helicals to second and third helical from gearbox. If you only could hear the exhaust behind the fairly hyperized R72 and compared it to the R75 I had set up. Not to mention watching it storm up behind the struggling R72. later in the season we even added a second set of rotor sweeps to gain some more. I don't know if you know our area but this year most all the wheat was laying on the wet ground with very good yeilds. I had much less feeder problems this year also even though it was the toughest conditions. I can only relate this to a couple two or three things: One is solid rear feed shaft with no slip clutch. Two is converting a couple of normal pitch helicals over feeder to steep pitch. Three is the addition of rotor sweeps that prevented material from backing up to feeder area and oh yea maybe a fourth is we got rock door humps in all '04 machines. The guys running the '04s simply loved them over the '03s. So do I think the split flow is the way to go for the future. Yes for sure at one point and I'm sure it is workable. But for now I know they can build on what they have to greatly increase capacity. That would include deepening the feeder between the two chains or at least smoothen it out. We have had great success with what we have done with feeders without widening. We need that added feeder capacity in our conditions and it won't hurt others. I think you could easily put a R85 decal on the side of one of our machines and wouldn't guess it didn't have another 50hp beyond the stock 75s. I say finish what we have and then go larger diameter cage or split flow with wider feeder or whatever. Don't turn the rotor a quarter turn. Have a great day.

 

[ahbecalm]

With regard to the feederchain intake triangle, the mod we do, and Gleaner incorporated into it's design. last year it was bolted in. Jerry (Midway Farm Equipment) told me they had a few come loose. This year the new machines come with the triangle welded in. He only sells Class 6 and 7, no Class 5 customers in his area.

 

[NDDan]

Yea I heard that some Gleaner kits went out with bolts that were not long enough. I wish Gleaner would of just copied the way we do it. Ours doesn't hang into the flow from feeder and the helical is fastened to cage as well as the triangle filler piece. We took the torch to the Gleaner kits we got. We trimed away enough iron so it couldn't interfer with feed flow and then fastened helical at a steeper angle. We started making our own again after seeing how Gleaner was doing it. We cut away only enough of the currant crop flow directer for as to weld on triangle filler to support a helical bar. We weld the filler to crop flow directer and have helical bolted to cage as well as filler. It would be a good idea to weld filler to cage especially if helical isn't bolted to cage. Take care