Combines Competition

Our project is to perform a SWOT analysis strength's, weaknesses,oppurtuniuty's, and threat of John Deere small equipment division. Do you have any input.

Deere is starting to build equipment cheep. we noticed that it seems that Qulity and workmenship have gone down hill. we have mostly J.D. equipment But are starting to look around. we have a new kinze 12 row planter just because the 1750 didn't hold up! (cheep steal)!!! Our next skid loader probly wont be a John Deere either we have a 250 series 2 less than a year old with a lot of problems. befor that had a 250 with less than 1000hrs. alwys in the shop

Their own success is probably their main threat. like the old car rental ads said, the second place guy has to try harder. But they sure are trying to cover the market. Saw an ad for John Deere brooms and bench brushes this morning in a Home Depot ad. What next.

After changing the inline fuel filter on my 7410 I am ready to look at the competition tooIJ

We are a fair sized farm here in Ontario and we are finding that the green paint seems to cost alot more. Mind you that the resale value is exclent. hwy19farm, we have a 7710 and I have changed our inline filter many times, if you are having problems I can send my wife to give you a lesson..... (let me know)

Ouch! That one hurt! Back to Deere: The only thing that would hurt them in the long run is if they stop building the most reliable stuff. They are never the cheapest, but we generally know what we are going to get. A good solid piece. There may be little troubles, but overall they flat out work. If they ever rest on their laurels, build crap, and still expect top dollar, they will go down the tubes. A reputation built over decades can be gone in a few years. The only other potential issue is that they have to be careful with their dealers. Everybody knows there are too many dealerships and some have to go for the rest to stay in business. If they push too far, set up a Caterpillar-type dealer network and expect people to drive two hours to a dealership, people will decide to give the competition a try.

Well I am going to put a bullet in it for you. We just traded our 9750 and 930 flex in on a 9790 Massey. Dealer is close and I have driven past the MF dealer for 9750 parts. No support from Deere and when I asked to talk with some combine engineers about our troubles I was put in touch with our territory rep who is about 26 years old and fresh out of college. When I talked to him on the phone it sounded like he was at a party. And this was in the middle of the day. I got no help from him at all. I called dealers 700 miles away for help(Greensburg) and I got farther there that 8 miles from home. Sad. We still have Deere planters and a few tractors. I don't know if there will be any new ones green here any time soon unless its a repainted Oliver. Now our Deere dealer is being bought out by another who already owns 7 or 8 stores. Could be good but probably will be bad in the long run. There will be no competition between green dealers. Nothing that I can see that will make me want to stay green.

Riceman, I'm wondering if you've run your Massey yet and if so what you think of it. I've got no experience with Massey, never even saw a newer one run, but we have a good Massey dealer close by and I wonder if I should be looking that direction. I'm currently running a 2366 and have been generally satisfied, dealership second to none. I can't do anything to that machine they can't have me running in 24 hrs. Generally they have whatever I need in stock. I'm inclined to agree with your assesment of Deere dealerships. I would consider running green, but my local dealerships have lousy service. All these machines have thier strenghts and weaknesses, the dealer is the deciding factor for me.

Yes we have a 8780 (98 model) and I really like it. Its so simple that its amazing. Fewer chains, belts and gearboxes. The dealer is about 1 hour away but I have met them halfway to get an idler pulley so I was down about an hour. I have seen and talked with more Massey engineers and can't even get a Deere one on the phone. Much less on the farm standing on the step of the combine while I was driving. I just feel like Agco is headed in the right direction and Deere is going the other way. Our IH dealer is the pits. We have a few older IH tractors and a few disks that we can get parts elsewhere for. I looked at the 8010 IH combine at louisville and it looked like a hydraulic nightmare. I counted 29 metal and rubber lines just in one spot. All of them were mixed together and just looked like big trouble. So we got a Massey. Simplicity, capacity and good support. Its all I can ask for in a machine. But I got a few good pictures of the Deere 9750 leaving out on the Massey truck.

Hello PA harvester,I farm in central Sask. and there are quite a few Massey 9000 series being sold.I saw one run at a large demo,all the competetion was there and the Massey 9790 was quite impresive,you will be happy.