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farmert

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I had a extended coversation with a friend_farmer from a little ways away (40 mi) so we are not competitors in any way. he had one of the 5 9860's with bullet rotors for harvest this last year. he was not impressed at all, and he is a JD lover! MS told me that 4 mph in heavy corn was it and hardly ever got over 3000 bph through it because the cleaning system is so small. biggest reason he keeps them they almost give him a new one every year(roll) he has two new 9760's coming happy new year
 

Combine_Wizard

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Tony, I would love to hear more about his experiences with not only the bullet rotors, but the 9760's. I like John Deere, and I'm not into the bashing, but will stand a civil discussion on the pros and cons of any make_model of combine. Have you been to the other combine forum, yetIJ combineforums.proboards42.com I've been telling people about it. It's only to compliment, not compete with, or replace this site. They can take on new members, where this site can't. Anyway, Tony, if you would like to just talk more about combines, please e-mail me sun_dog63@yahoo.com thank you.
 

Wheaty1

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At 3000bph he already needs 5 semi's, 2 grain carts and 7 drivers to keep the corn away if he has to haul any distance at all! Sounds pretty good to me!
 

Combine_Wizard

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Wheaty, I know someone who had just that, but his combine was a 12-row 9650, harvesting at least 5,000 bu_hr. I rode on the combine and shot a lot of pictures. Believe me, the work was at a breakneck pace! Wish you also a happy new year!
 

Rooster

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No 9650 ever did 5,000_hr. That means a class six Deere rivals a class nine lexion - and that's physically not possible. I find so much humor in listening to other farmers say how big their little combines are and always doing more to make small ones act bigger. No matter what you do to a combine, power wise or mod. wise, or how hard you push it, it is designed to have limited cleaning shoe capacity. Grain loss on any combine below class nine running at 5,000 bph would be absolutely tremendous. Physically, the cleaning system of a Deere can barely handle half of the volume of its own clean grain elevator can (STS elevators have a theoretical rating of 6,000 bph, the combines aren't expected to perform to that level, that's just the dimensional size of the elevator to ensure, primarily effective grain flow and quality. Class 7 and 8 STS's are lucky to get 2800 - 3000 bph corn in good conditions. I think you mis-read the yield monitor, even if it weren't calibratd it wouldn't read anywhere close to 5000bph. Nice try, but guess again!
 

greengoose

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I would agree with you on that statement.. no way a 9650 sts can do that many bu_hr.. all I can get out of mine is around 3200 max that's at 20% corn
 

Wheaty1

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You would only need 8 semi's, 2 carts, 10 drivers and 300bu_acre corn at 16 acres per hour!! Everyone has all that!!!
 

Combine_Wizard

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I was the one there. No, this was not a yield monitor reading, I was watching the trucks load and leave the field. I made some posts about it back when it happened, too. The fall of 2001, near Pratt, KS. What I timed within the hour, was 4 full trucks that left. You have to consider yet, there was still a full hopper on the machine, one in the cart not filled, the other cart already full and now unloading into the semi, so I figure at least 2 combine loads there or 600 bushels. I only rode the combine 2 hours, then had to let others have their turn to ride. I did time the loads with my own watch, so I know I must be very close with these figures. Again, it was a 12-row head, traveling at a steady 5.5 MPH. The owner told me his yield stood around 235-240 bpa. Back when I first mentioned this at the time it happened, nobody here ever challenged it. The owner did have his own semis plus at least 3 more hired. It sure helped to have his own granery only a few miles away, but the truckers all said they had no time to rest between loads,either. As to the biggest lexion with a 16-row head, my gues in the same field, would probably add at least another 1,500 or more bu_hr to that figure. Does that make senseIJ I know the biggest lex [Model 590] is larger than the 9750, at least in terms of capacity. If you want to talk to me more about it, please e-mail me [sun_dog63[at]yahoo.com] and I would be happy to ink you directly to the owner_operator of this 9750. He may have a lot more folow-up info, as I haven't been there, now, for over 4 years.
 

big_orange

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Doing the math at the figures stated and running mile rows,output peaks at about 4400 b_hr.Shorter rows would lower output.
 

Combine_Wizard

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Okay, that could be more accurate. I do know the 4 semis were filled and gone within the hour with one already back, and one being filled. Honestly could not tell or measure how much was actually being loaded into the 5th semi or what the combine and cart still had in the field at the top of the hour. I just enjoyed the ride and company while on the 9650 only 2 hours or so. I only stayed around for another 1-1_2 to 2 hours later, mostly taking pictures, but was timing the loads because they were just moving so fast. In the course of a full day, the boss had one complete circle cut and at least 1_3 or so of another done, if that makes sense. He really had to push hard because he farms at least 62 or so such circles! That's a lOT of corn!
 
 
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