Combines ethanol and biodeisel

[FR]

Here in MN. its going over well I curently drive a E.85 pickup. Our republican gov. is pushing to mandate a higher use of ethanol currently I belive there is 10 plants on line and 3 that will be on line in a year. One of these plants is located 6 miles away which will use 60 semis per day. Hope other states get there legislature and govs. up to speed it certainly cant hurt the farmers.

 

[newguy]

I agree with you Frans..... I do feel it could be much better. Manufacturers (GM, FORD, CHRYSlER)could easily put out more E85 (flex fuel engines)....I bought a new pickup 3 years ago, It was like pulling teeth to get the options I wanted, E85 was only available in a 1_2 ton...I needed something bigger. Our republican gov't here in Mn is pushing 20% manditory ethanol, currently is at 10%....Why not push E85IJIJIJIJIJIJIJIJ last (unintellegent, misinformed, economically bias) remark I heard from big oil "U.S. would face a huge food shortage if ethanol was to become the majority of fuel purchased".....How much corn do we all have in our binsIJ How come all my neighbors feedlots have trucks rolling in from the ethanol plants to feed their cattle with the bi-productIJIJ Ethanol will not become a major U.S. industry untill the average URBAN citizen realizes the truths about it.......Us corn producers are faced with a huge competetor, who will use non-truths as a force to keep ethanol suppressed.

 

[duke]

How do we get the truth outIJ We somehow need to let the urban people know. Big oil can get to them.....so can the enviromental working group why can't weIJ I would love to know how much money is spent on advertising. Why don't the enviromental groups help us out on this oneIJIJIJIJIJ

 

[angus11]

I'll agree with you on this, we have such an abundance of grain. Why not use it, it's better for the enviroment too. I am sure the seed companies have the technology to produce seed that would yield even more if the demand was there. I just started reading a book called "Hot Commodities" by Jim Rogers. He's saying that there is going to be a shortage of all commodities in the next couple of years. Get the book it's very interesting and will open a persons eyes to what is going on.

 

[Gpurrs]

Sounds like a good place for our check-off dollars.

 

[anteater6788]

We've used ethanol in our gas engines for a long time and soydiesel for at least three years now. I've heard alot of weird excuses for not using them, most of them not based on real facts but you can't confuse some people with the facts. With all the recent talk about how outsourcing is hurting the US economy very little has been said about the oil industry and what a huge percentage of our oil comes from oversea's when we have home grown replacements that are as good if not better. We even put a corn burning furnace in our shop this year, it cost a little more than a gas furnace but it costs a fraction as much to run plus the cost of the corn stays in our local economy where it can do the most good.

 

[john]

Isn't ethanol to expensive to compete without taxpayer money. It uses lots of energy to make ethanol from grain.

 

[newguy]

Ethanol has gone from an efficiency rating of 32% in 2002 to currently over 65%..... Ethanol becomes less economical with the incline price of the main input (corn).....future production of the fuel may come inpart from sugar beets. Sometimes people lose sight of what the "real" cost of inputs include, such as subsidies (corn) and war (oil).....I support saddams removal, but doubt we would be there if the land was out of oil.....there are many countries in Africa with the same turmoil as Iraq....but that is a discussion best left for another web site..... The real question is what benefits do we get by pruchasing ethanolIJ Cleaner burning fuel and less dependance on foreign oil are my two top reasons, Im sure their are a hundred more.......

 

[boetboer]

Yup, many countries in Africa has as much or more turm-oil, but not as much crude-oil......

 

[M]

Good One!!