Combines green versus gleaner who winsIJ

Those two combines arent even in the same league. It is like comparing a tandem grain truck (R62) to a single axle (9500). In other words, if you want a small combine, buy a small combine. But if you want a machine with lots of capacity, go with the R62. Tom in MN

The Cummins engine is the compelling reason. If that JD engine hic ups it is $10 grand minimum. Maybe some Silver parts are higher but not all and not that much. Besides on the Gleaner there just arn't that may belts and idlers ect to replace. Had the PlEASSURE this year of cutting next to a 9600 and just pulled up even with him and then showed him my spreader.

Capacity on any colored rotary is considerably better, reason for the STS. Grain Quality is better on a Rotor over a cylinder machine, Cylinder crushes the grain off(causes fines and crackage),a rotor rubs it off in many more square feet to remove the grain from the cob, hull, stalk. A much gentler process. And the parts costs have risen dramatically at Deere in the past 5 years, now compare to other companies in cost. I own a couple pieces of JD and see the parts end of JD regularly, they use to be cheaper, but not anymore! A 9500 without update to the 9510 series will make you love that M2. The Gleaner is much easier to service or repair when needed over the JD, JD hides and buries bearings, etc. And Gleaners have always given a cleaner grain sample when set equal to a Deere for its operator. Good luck in your decision!

I looked at the side of a 9550 today and there was lines, hoses, and belts running all over the place. Maybe gleaner parts are more expensive but there is not as many of them.

ran a 98 r62 for a week this fall in corn

We run a 1996 R-62 that is all factory stock. Have 525 header and 8-30 hugger on it.You got it right.In corn above 150bpa second gear can not run hydro all way up.And we have lots of hills steep and long.Seems to us it limiting factor is horsepower.Don`t get me wrong we love the machine but could use little more ponies.

odd, The factory 62 should not impress you - that is the reason for being of this talk show. For not much cost(relative to buying an R72),you can have a half size bigger machine. If you plan on keeping the R62 for long, give it a go. My $.02. Efficiency and cost containment is there for the taking. Good luck.

First of all I'd say you can't go too wrong with either machine. We help a neighbor with about 500 acres of corn and soybean planting and harvesting each season. He just traded a 7720 for a 9500 while we run a R-60 (P1) and a R-72. Some comaprions I feel important between combines: 1)Grain quality. In soybeans under most conditions I do not believe there is a lot of difference. We both raise seed beans and I don't believe there ever to be a lop sided difference in cleanouts. Corn is a different story. The Gleaners (other rotaries too I'm sure) definantly have less fines, it is not even close. 2) Grain loss. We both run Agleader PF3000 yield monitors and calibrated them on these farms. The Gleaner showed an yield advantage in both. However, we run Crary Air Reels while he doesn't. The only times I've noticed him losing more beans than I thought he should have was in green tough spots...in those areas walker losses rose dramiticaly. As for corn, there was a strong 1_2 bpa advantage for the Gleaner. I did not do any counts behind his machine but I know we were losing about 1_6 bpa out the rotor and less than that over the shoe. With casual observation behind his machine it did not appear a lot different, except for the cobs that every so often still had 5-6 kernals on them. Also, I believe with the amount of fines in those conventionals they "blow" over kernal pieces and even dust. Heads: Soybeans. JD flex heads seem fine. Many say they feed better than Gleaners. I don't know, it has been a while since we have run with out Air Reels to make a good comparison. I will say however, if I did own a JD flex head I would still get an Air Reel. I don't see how feeding could be a lot different because he still had to run reel fast and all the way down in order to feed. Corn heads. That is easy. Hugger all the way! I'm sure the durablity of the Deere head is okay but when it comes to performance it is no Hugger, period. Note, that may also explain some of the yield difference in corn. Don't know what crops you harvest but I think you'll like the rotaries for all but especially high volume crops like corn. A few years ago I'd have agreed 100% with you on the parts expense comment. Not sure I do any more. We have some green equipment and it has been plenty spendy to fix as well. One other thing to add. If you do buy a Deere be careful! JD's agressive marketing tactics have led to lots of roll-overs. Often these machines have not been serviced and maintained as well as they should've been. Yes, 9500's are often cheaper than competitive brands and rightly so. It is becasue they are junk. Not because of poor design but because many have rarely seen a grease gun, oil change, etc... Just keep your eyes open. Good luck!

My experience would seem to prove what you are saying. After doing a few of the mods suggested on the Mods page I am able to run my R60 with 6 row Hugger at max speed in 2nd gear anywhere I want to go in a field of 150-210 bu corn. The only limiting factor in soybeans is how fast the sickle will cut them. Tom in MN

looks like the 98 62 needed the pump tweaked or juiced up a little. I have run a new 285 hp R62 against a very polished N7 in wheat on a tough night when we should have went home early. They were a dead heat. They both ran out of power at the same time. Once the 62's cage was polished good, I would expect it to slightly outdo the 7. The 98 you were trying is a 260 hp motor but with a little massaging, it can be running an easy 280 or 300 with more torque higher up in the rpm band. It could even be simple things that we forget about like fuel and air filters. Kelly