Combines I AM NOT JUMPING SHIP AGCO JUST NEEDS TO WAKE UP

Comparing price on a 75 to a 9660 is a class 7 to 6,needs to be a 9760.As far as the 8000 being over priced,3 8000 here close and they will cut with any Deere without full fingers,mines on a 62,one on a 75,and one on a 9690 Massey.Why's the return pluggingIJ

How did you like the fast unloading turrent auger iff it was a HUR. They are nice. The reasons you listed are why Gleaner has less than 5 % market share. Till their cdf any sts would blow away the biggest gleaner in soybeans. Even with cdf the sts probably still has an edge. I feel your pain. Agco headers need full finger augers!!! Anybody that says not does not cut soybeans or has perfect conditions all the time. The sorry actuaters on the head for reel fore and aft are a joke. They either stick or do not stay put and are slow. Do not tell me ther is a fix for them. They need to put some hydraulic cylinders on them. WAKE UP AGCO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Run an Agco deal with Agco. Market share shows it.

You make some good points. There are certainly things AGCO can and needs to improve and modernize on the combines and headers, but if you think things are better with a green combine, you'll be sadly disappointed. While I would agree that an STS has had an advantage over the Gleaner with the standard rotor in tough beans, I have found that once the beans get a good frost behind them the Gleaner is the machine that has the capacity edge, primarily due to its superior cleaning system. The CDF rotor looks to put the Gleaner on a more even keel with the STS when things are tough, and only advance the Gleaner's edge over the STS after a frost. The STS's grain quality as a whole is terrible. The Gleaner maintains its edge in quality and cleanliness. While the STS may look flashy on the outside, when you really evaluate what's underneath you will see that JD has cut corners everywhere they could. That combine is cheap in nearly every sense of the word. Thin steel, poor augers, low quality components, but it does look nice on the outside. The Gleaner on the other hand, only looks better the deeper inside it you go. It's what's inside that counts - flashy paint never harvested a bushel.

Couple of question Illinois GleanerIJ Can you tell us if the 8000 flex head is running the table auger at the most appropriate rev's for the forward speed that you most commonly doIJ As I found out that our Flex 500 table auger was only running at around 130 or so revs (book said it was 150!!) and with a 30 inch pitch flighting it was only bringing the crop from the outer ends to the feeder house at around 3 MPH when I was trying to run a forward speed of 4.5 to 5 MPH in dry wheat. when we up the rev's of the table auger to 180+ it made one heck of a difference!! could it be one of your troubles with the 8000 frontIJ only trying to help!! Rolf

big orange, I dont know why it plugs. It has the return to cylinder option and it always plugs at the top. My other 72 doesnt have that option and it dosent clog. Those beans are the only time it plugs,they had half of there leaves on them,green as grass,and testing 12. That is my problem I know that.It never bothers me in any thing else. IG

You migh thave done this already! But you can flip the returns top lid so the metal guide's are pointing up so as to make some more room in here for material to make it way around the top of the repeats chain. It might work! Rolf

Check to see if you have the top lid on the return elevator turned the right side down. I believe when returning to rotor there is a guide that guides the material down into the auger properly, built into the lid itself. Have used these for beans for many years and have never had a plug in that area. Hope this helps.

I have to agree with you on Agco's flex heads, we have a 25' 8000 and without an air reel it wouldn't feed short beans worth a darn, they don't have the flexibility that others have and it is struggling to cut 40 bushel beans at 4mph, anything much over that and it drags dirt, really is a dissappointing head, just wish i could get a Deere head on our 65 and then we would really have a combine, right now i am very very upset with this head, new SCH knife, air reel and we also have the skid shoes modified so we can at least cut down low enough to shave the ground which is something we could never do before and Agco knows all about this modification as they helped pay for it and its still the poorest head on the market, really Agco had better be making some major changes to this new head they are coming out with. I also have to agree with you that the fore and aft is poor for movement and the reel lift keeps dropping down on its own too, i wish Agco would let me try one of there prototypes here i could really give them some pointers.

Rolf, Not sure about the rpms on the auger.It doesnt plug the auger,the problem is getting to the auger,the auger takes it in fine when running 5.2 IF THEY GET TO THE AUGER!!!!!! But when you get to small beans they still have to build up for a little while until they go on in,and they go clear to the spreader the same way. As I stated before it is better then my 800, because it has the raised feather sheets,But still doesnt feed like the deere. Thanks for the suggestion Rolf I will check and see IG