T_lESlIE
Guest
Should carry same warranty as any part.. Belts are tricky... what caused it to fail is usaully the kicker.....
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Combines Is there a warranty on new agco beltsIJIJIJIJIJ
silver_aussie
Guest
I think it depends on the dealer a bit and whether they think it is in their best interests to keep you happy!!!!!!!
Tom_Russell
Guest
Would you say its almost like the warranty on a new auto windshieldIJ Everything is covered except rocks, golf balls, etc. It would be interesting to know if there is a specific belt in question, Tom in MN
Illinois_Gleaner
Guest
A guy in the area that had a R72 and had run Gleaner for a long time had problems with rotor belts this fall . The dealer put on three belts this fall. And I guess he had to pay for all of them. To me it is a tuff call. The end of the story is he got ripped off and traded his R72 off and got a 9650 Deere. Should Agco stand behind the belts , The dealer , or is the customer asking to much and cutting off his nose dispite his faceIJIJIJIJIJ Just wondering, Illinois Gleaner
John
Guest
Many factors are getting involved in that one. Rubber quality in many cases isn't what it used to be. Even the belts on the car and pickup engines are cheaper than 5 to 10 years ago. I have a 92 Dodge Diesel PU and the first belt went 9 years and 210k miles. The new $90+ belt that was bought a year ago went bad last week, less than 9k after it was put on. When I bought my N6 used it chewed up 3 belts before we(the dealer and I) figured out that the Main Clutch Cross Shaft was bent and chewing on the belt and throwing it off. My Dealer even though it was USED ate 2 of the 3 belts, he relized that he had sold a defective machine, he also cut in half the price and labor of the new shaft installation. NO Fuss was made! He made money on the sale of the machine and on 1_2 the repairs and 1 belt and ate the rest to keep a good customer, without me even asking. And as P T Barnum said, "There is a sucker in every crowd!" a 9650 JD, neighbors STS still isn't working right after 3 seasons, the 2388 does 75% of the work. Personally I would have contacted Gleaner and found out if the belts were a problem this past fall for that n and let Gleaner and the Dealer work it out, anyone can get a bad bunch of belts. And Gleaner would have more clout to get better quality belts.
t_leslie
Guest
It still gets back to a statement I made in my first post. "what caused the belt to failIJ" Obviously your friend (or his dealer) did not fix what was causing the belt to fail after the first one was put on... I think somebody should have stopped and looked for what was going on when the 1st new belt failed...if not then .. surley when the 2nd new belt failed... I know we all get real busy during harvest, but come on.. Who should warranty the beltIJ Dealer or AGCOIJ If the belt itself was at fault, AGCO should warranty the belt. If the belt failed because the customer didn't fix what was actually wrong with the combine to start out with then the customer should have to pay for as many belt as he tore up.. Same is true if the dealer put on the new belt and didn't fix what was actually wrong with the combine then the dealer should stand the cost of the belt... Parts Warranty usually comes down to who_what is to blame.. And if niether the customer or dealer are "BIG Enough" to admit responsibility then ther will be hard feelings and colors changed.. You can't ask AGCO to replace_warranty something you screwed up..It will drive up the price of parts that we all think is too high anyway.. my $.02
Turbo
Guest
Some things to check-idler in good shape and PERFECT alignment. On any belt in a variable speed drive (cylinder rotor or cornhead) if cams get scored or if lack of grease,can become sticky and snap belts.When repairing spring cam area,you will need a press and be very carefull.Agco belts would be under warranty,but normally a new belt breaks or jumps off because of other reasons than faulty product.
John
Guest
You have the exact attitude of my Dealer and are very correct. Too bad this fellow was a fool and traded for a green one! I have owned Reds and Silvers and had Greens work in the same field with me(even operating them) and to this point I won't go Green!
Tom_Russell
Guest
I havent noticed any deterioration in belt quality on any of the equipment we run around here including a fleet of 9 Dodge pickups, some of which have well over 250,000 miles. As the others have said, premature belt failure is frequently caused by other factors, but too often we blame the result instead of the cause. Tom in MN
SilverTurnedGreen
Guest
Maybe if you learned to setup and_or operate a green one, your opinion would differ! Judging by your comment and "the numbers", I'd have to assume that there are alot of fools farming since Deere sells a "few" more combines than any other North American manufacturer. Since I own and operate one of each (Gleaner C62 and Deere 9610),I'd have to say that your opinion might either be biased or just plain inept, but it certainly doesn't take a "fool" to buy a Deere, or a Gleaner for that matter!