Combines looking for the lowdown on the 8010 AFX

The binders could have used some of the updates available on this site. Then the binders will cut green stem beans.

Must have been some sick "binders" or you are full of crap! I run a 30' on a 1688, 50 bu, green enough that the spreaders were dripping, at 3.5 mph. And I think it's a little short on power this fall. No way a 20' head can keep one of those machines full unless something is very wrong.

From what I have heard the 8010 is a class 7 plus machine. Didn't deere just follow what newholland did with there combines, as in the quick hook-up a faster unloading rate and more hp. I am not here to start any wars, but you should try to see if you can run these other colors and see for your self. I have seen alot of biased opions on this sight. like you I take things with a grain of salt until I have actually seen it in person.

listen idiot, if you're going to do a comparison at least compare apples to apples. A 9860 has 100hp more than a 2388. It should outcut the Case.

Stop! Stop! Stop! What are you talking about, referring to a 9860 as a true class eight combineIJ An 8010 is the far more the larger of the two machines. It requires far more than horsepower to determine the classification of a combine...despite the industry standards. Capacity wise, an 8010 is far more the superior to the 9860. A 9860 is nothing more than a 9750 with plenty of power. There are no physical differences between a 9750 and 9860 STS. The 8010 as far more cleaning capacity to accommodate the larger vlumes of material. I watched the 9860 at the Husker Harvest Days and watched it puke lots of corn too. The 8010 did a far better job and the Cat lexion 480R did much better than both and atleast a mile to mile and a half faster. The 9860 is alot of hype compared to the 8010 and 480R. My neigbor demo'd his 475R Cat lexion, equipped with a 30' flex with a 9860 and a 30'flex head and the 475R walked all over it. Therefore, denouncing the horsepower advantage of the STS and letting harvesting technology take over. The Deere salesman in the bar the other night was still talking about how remarkable the 475R was. Acclerated Pre-Separation as alot of advantages. For those doubters, explain how a 475R can be witnessed beating the sox off of a 9860.

How do you figure the 9860 has 100 more hpIJ as far as i know, the both have 375 hp... Correct me if i am wrong...

Now that I think about it, a twenty foot head on a 1688, That is one stupid farmer. Those combines handle 25 to 30 foot heads. He would have to be driving ten or better miles per hour to get even get the combine near full capacity. One combine will not replace two 88 series combines unless the operators are green horns. Just do the numbers.

I'm certainly not full of it. I was in the field and saw it. You'd have to ask the Binder guys why they only run 20-foot heads, but they sure as hell do. And the 9860 filled the semi it was dumping in faster than the two Binders filled the one they were dumping in. And that was with the Binder owner operating it, not somebody from Deere. Needless to say, they may not have red much longer.

I don't have to resort to calling names to make my point. I think if you'll re-read the post, you'll find that I said the 9860 outcut at 2388 and 2188 COMBINED. Is that not clear enoughIJ Perhaps it's because they only had 20-foot heads, but they still weren't cutting as much or as fast, PUT TOGETHER. You're going to tell me that 40 total feet of header on TWO combines should be outperformed by 35 feet on ONE combineIJ Now that I think of it, since the 9860 was cutting faster, it does figure out. The extra speed advantage offset the narrower header width. I ask an honest question, describe what I have witnessed in the field, and I'm the idiotIJ If you're looking for an idiot, check the mirror.

I don't recall asking about Cat combines, and the reason for that is that there are NO Cat combines in this area, even with a very strong Cat dealer only 40 miles away. If you think there are no differences between the 9750 and the 9860, you clearly haven't looked at them side by side. The 9860 has a 12.5 liter engine compared to the 8.1 of the 9750. It also has the 3.3 bushel_second unloading system standard, while it's optional on the 9750. The 9860 also has single-point header hookup, which the now-discontinued 9750 NEVER had. It also has the pre-set adjustments, electronic chaffer and seive adjustments, and a bunch of other features never found on the 9750. The chopper was also redesigned. So no, the 9860 is not just a 9750 with a big engine. I just want to know why although the 8010 is so superior, why Deere is putting the 9860 in fields, while the 8010 is apparently reserved for farm shows and demos. And why do they keep burning upIJ