Combines looking for the lowdown on the 8010 AFX

[23884life]

You don't think soIJ Think about this...on 9860sts with a 35' platform going 6-7 mph (saw it happen) cutting soybeans vs. 2 1680s crawling around w_ 20' heads at 2.5-3 mph. Sure you give up 5' but the increase in speed more than compensates that, plus you can start an hour or two earlier in the morning and go an hour or two later in the day. Now, does it make senseIJ By the way, just so you know I'm not bashing the red guys only, but a 9610 would only do the same 3 mph also. (Had 3 combines in the same field - 9610 w_30' head, 2388 w_25' head, and 9760 w_30' head - it was amazing just to see that new Deere and how FAST it was going and they say it will go a mph faster and actually work!)

 

[Salesman]

GMAN, the 2188 and 2388 machines you saw were either sick, or they had dumb and dumber driving. We have numerous 2188 and 2388 customers running in 55-60bu soybeans with 25ft. heads cutting from 5.5 to 7.0mph with little to no grain loss. We have not really got into bean harvest this year just yet, but have several units that have the new AFX rotor, and we are expecting improvements over the specialty rotor. As for the 8010, its a monster. I got to ride one a couple of weeks ago cutting rice. The machine is to say the least-IMPRESSIVE!! The machine was cutting between 2500 and 3000BU._HR. We have very little corn in our area, but to give you an idea of the added capacity. A 9750STS, 9650CTS, or Axial Flow 2388 maxes out at around 1200 to 1400BU_HR in rice. A 9650 or9610 walker machine can't do nearly that much. The AFX8010 has 10,075sq_in. of cleaning area, the 2388 has 7947sq_in, and the 9750_9650STS has about 7500sq_in. The 8010 clean grain elevator has 6000bu_hr capacity, the 9750STS has about 5300BU_Hr capacity. From what I have seen on the new 60 series deere, they did nothing to increase the thrash capacity of the 9860STS exept give it more horsepower. If that is the case, deere is in trouble in rice country. How are yalls crops turning outIJ Good I hope, we All need to have a good year for a change. later.

 

[Foot_n_mouth]

Friend, I have a 1460 with 20 foot head and a neighbor with a 2366 with 25 foot head that moves along quite well in fifty bushel beans. Granted this is all BS because their are just too many variables to compare. A new machine verses older models. Compare a new 2388 with AFX rotor and the difference narrows.

 

[Foot_n_mouth]

That I won't swallow "a 1680 would only do 2.5 with a twenty foot head. I will do that with a 1460 in fifty bushel beans. Those combines need some serious repairs.

 

[mx270]

I dont even know why you started this string if you wanna see it in person. like i have been sayin on here for the last 3 years give me any color, brand machine i could make it work just as good or better than the rest. You can sit here and argue all day long about this and that and all you do is get in to a spittin match.So lets relax a bit Gentlemen its the internet afterall mx270 stx450@hotmail.com

 

[MIke]

Having only demoed Deere's and CaseIH machines the past 10 years I can't offer any info or experience with the new 60 series, the 8010 or the AFX rotor. What I can say is I don't think I have ever seen a 2388 with a 20' head. Most run 25-30'. Most of those guys are still running 4+mph with those heads.

 

[greenstrat]

Wow..I can't beleive all the discontent you stirred up, Gman. Good job. This place was as dead as a graveyard. I live in SW Iowa, and go by York to Husker Harvest Days every year. I also am a dinky farmer with a 6620. If you ever pull open the left rear side cover on the new bigger better binder, you will see why deere has nothing to worry about. Better hope you aren't asked to dig in there someday. GS

 

[wflickin]

G-Man, The Case 8010 is a completely new machine that has just started production. The New 9860 on the other hand has been in production in Europe for quite some time, and is in all reality no different than the 9760, or the 9660, just a larger motor. Very easy to build the new models. Change engines, and slap on a new decal. Many times when a company releases a new product that is radical or different, as is the 8010, they perform what is called a pilot production run in order to test the waters to be sure that the product will fly as expected before committing to a hugh endevour. (especially with that large a price tag). It is not a big deal for Deere.

 

[wflickin]

g-man, I am afraid you are missing the point to the post above. When one talks about a combine harvestors performance, the items you mentions(unloading auger, single hook up point,electronic adjustment etc.) are just bells and whistles. They may make life more convenient, and cut the out of cab time, but if you don't increase the cleaning, threshing, and seperating area then ideally, the power is all that will allow for more throughput to occur. Deere has a great machine, and a lot of novel ideas, but the gentle man you responded too is just saying that case made changes to the machine to increase through put,( harder to do than you might think) where as deere just extended there performance by adding a few more ponies under the hood. Hats of too both of the design groups on these combines. Fine works of art.

 

[wflickin]

Good Point mx 270, Any machine can be set up to run and run well, even the silver ones. A compentent operator will do a good job. Besides, not everyone like to spend a day at the races try to control 35 ft of head at high speeds. Where I'm from, all you end up doing is tearing things up at that speed.