Combines looks like no one can answer JD s questionIJ

Boy this just doesn't seem to have an end.When it comes to simplicity

thirty years ago a combine came out with a rethrasher that sounds alot like the one on NH's new machine. If the tailings are run through the rethrasher then thrown on the seives, you'll get overloading on the nearest side to the retrasher.In heavy, tough,or green crop the little cylinder will plug. Massey tried it for twenty some years, farmers made changes to the system,(welding slip clutches together ect.)it was the bottleneck in the thrashing capacity of all Massey combines from the 410-860. I know, we ran 410, 510, 751, 851, 860.

Thanks northernfarmer, I was told this by a NH dealer who was a MF dealer back in the 60 and 70's. He said just about the same thing you did as to the problems and how oudated the technology was. Anyway, I'm over this NH CR, people here just can't see what their loosing in respect to what they have now. Bring on the Massey's!!! JD

The rethresher on the Tx series has paddles and deflectors to spread the tailings evenly across the sieves unlike a Massey and the self leveling shoe also eliminates the overloading on one side( I farm in hilly land).Also unlike the Masseys(which I used for many years) you will do a far superior job of threshing so your tailings are minimal and you can check the amounts from the cab and adjust your settings.So the CR's should have the benefits of both the TR's and the TX's.

JD,If centrifugal force is the number one thing for rotary threshing, then why don't axial flows use itIJ Their big fat rotor turning at 300 rpm in corn sure as heck ain't going to generate much centrifigal force, yet that machine can thresh and thresh well along with an excellent sample. No hard feelings here, good luck with whatever machine you get. If you and yellow fever think I'm confused, that's okay. You guys need to relax a little. You can have all the c. force in the world, but if you don't keep it full, it's pointless. Case in point, this fall I had 130-140 bushel corn, I have an 8-row head on my 96, if I didn't go a minimum of 5-5.5mph I had a subpar sample (cobs grinding, and corn still on the cob) rotor speed and concave position didn't do much either way. The best solution was to put the pedal to the medal and dump the hydro and go. 18% percent corn and rotors at 550 and sample was beautiful. Concaves full open.

TR, like you said, "no hard feeling" okay but, your analogy above speaks in volumes! On your corn sample problem, you can try this, if it works great, if not you can cuss me out! A lot of times you will get cob and_or cob with corn on it in the sample by running the concaves full open in certain variety's whether you load the machine or notIJ Take your extension out and getcha a nice big cob, then crank the concaves up till they just touch the cob. This will eliminate that trashy sample again on cetain corns. @ 18% moisture I would want more rotor speed than you, more along the lines of 700-750rpm's, unless the variety had a soft type kernal. That too will help do away with the corn on cob problem. Best to ya, JD

I once read that Enron, Worldcom and Bre-Ex were "sure bets"; - Deere could be playing a "sympathy card" to appease thier shareholders, but I doubt whether they would ever go insolvent. I demoed a TR99 two seasons ago, and now I wished I would have bought one. My Deere 9650CWS has been a big disappointment so far, and I'm not convinced that the new CR's are the answer; - too heavy, too complex, and too expensive!

I just read a new release at Yahoo (Reuters news release) that Deere's latest financials - third quarter - were really good. Profit doubled, overseas sales increased 41 percent and their market share went up 4%. I don't think they're going the way of the dodo any time soon.

Here is the exact quote I read as follows, digest and take a good look at the numbers, JD "Deere has $2 billion in unfunded pension liability, more if investment returns sink further. There's no way they can earn their way out of that hole at $400 mil_year. Plus, their balance sheet is balloned up with financing and leases, like the car companies."

You realize, that talk like that could result in you being burnt at the big yellow stake....do you notIJ Thanks to the combine wizards you spoke up though, I was beginning to think I was suffering from CR-aphobiaIJIJIJIJ JD ;-)