I heard the same about the Stiegers, except for the Quad-Trac which remain exclusive to CIH. And like I said, I really like the CIH line so the last thing I want to see is to have them done away with. However, when this all comes from the men who have "president and vice president etc" behind their names you know that there is definantly intent there to remove all red tractors in the next few years. I am from Ontario where there are 70 CaseIH and New Holland dealerships. The propasal is inside the next 10 years there are to be 20 dealerships period !!!. The NH dealers that buy-out the CIH dealers will carry both colors, all tractors and combines to be built on the "common" NH chassis, then painted blue or red. They (head office) are pretty much following the JD guide to better business marketing, as they figure that will be the best way to market CNH as one company. So, even though for now there are two different colors it has been made very clear by the head office they only intend on keeping the NH products long-term (except for the Axial~Flow and STX Stieger which will continue to be built under the CNH name). There will be much more downsizing in the near future, as the Concord air cart people have mostly been let go already now that the Flexi~coil part of the company has taken over all air cart_drill_planter production and design. Apparently the same thing is going to happen with most Axial~Flow people and CIH planter_seeding guys. I hope it doesn't happen, but they are really pressing for it in the upper CNH offices.