Combines Pacer survey

[Bert]

1st year with rotary,is it common to plug seive in cornIJ Bert

 

[Silver_Bullet]

Wouldn't want to be without it. I use it to set the combine and probably look at it every minute or so. I have had them on since the early 80's and have saved a lot of grain and worry about how the combine is performing.

 

[camshaft]

I'm with the majority here in that I couldn't operate without the pacer. First grain loss monitor I used was a Smith Roles system, made in Saskatoon, that I installed on a model G. I believe it was this system that Gleaner used on those first l's. As others have said, you have to set it according to losses that are acceptable to you.

 

[Silver_Bullet]

On everyting except corn, I run on the most sensitive setting. Corn, I run, I think it is n2IJ Just off being most sensitive. Yes, it will pick up shucks and etc. I have seen a piece of a weed rub the plate and send the needle to show lot of loss. After slowing down and it is still maxed out, I know there is something wrong.

 

[Illinois_Gleaner]

No not if you have your concave and cylinder speed set right. And put some wedge in your concave to get the cobs to stay big so they wont get in your seive. Ive been shelling corn that is 13.5 to 14.0 percent corn with a 12 row on a R72 with half the wedge in the concave 190 rpm on the rotor 12 on the concave and that seems to keep the cobs whole so they dont give any problem. My problem with the seive was when the shucks got wet after a 3 inch rain.

 

[RamRod]

One way I use it, is to tell if in corn I have the lower sieve too tight. If needle goes completely over right, and I stop and it takes 5 to 7 seconds for the needle to settle back, I have the sieve a notch too tight. For corn and beans, for the shoe, I set for the most sensitive setting, and set sieves so I occasionally see a kernel hit. For flatlanders, I would like the sensor "pad" across the whole width of the shoe,(Class_lexion does this) as I might have loss at the center, but none on either edge, but don't know it. I could add another pad at the center, I've been told.

 

[Thud]

We use our for seive loss only , for some reason we havent been able to make it work for rotor loss. The pads are functioning,as per the tapping test,but as soon as we put any material through the machine the needle heads straight into the red and stays there until we stop and the machine cleans out.Best we can figure is there is too much material flying around in there and the sensor is being overloaded iwth cob, grain, leaves. Etc.Makes no difference if we run .5mph of 5mph the rotor sensor will read in the red,, sieve is accurate though. r-50 has been hypered but rotor loss seemed to get worse not better.Any suggestions perhaps of relocating the sensor pads to give an accurate readingIJ

 

[Dan]

Pacer needs to be calibrated on cylinder if you want to watch cylinder and shoe if you want to watch shoe. Calibrate on both if you want pacer to watch both at the same time. It is very seldem that setting for cylinder is going to be the same of shoe. May want to have module checked out in module tester or better yet switch with another machine that is working (very easy to do). Doubt if it will change anything to switch a shoe pad with cylinder but easy to try. let us know how you do.

 

[Thud]

Have tried setting the pacer for cylinder.. as i said it goes straight to the red regardless of what we do. The module was replaced but didnt solve the problem, sensor functions when tapped on also. Pacer works good on seive setting but when set to 'total' or 'cylinder' the needle heads straight to red. We would expect that when starting into a row.. or finishing up as thats when rotor loss is greatest but its doing it all the time, hence the thought that the sensor has to be relocated in the cage.Any ideasIJ

 

[Dan]

I would try swaping that pad with shoe. If that don't pinpoint problem then remove wires from sender to see if cylinder loss signal is gone when traveling. I suppose you could drive with no material in machine with machine running to see what gauge says. Just tring to figure if there is a wire wrong somewhere. You could move sender to other side of wall and extend wire if needed to get a weaker signal.