Combines plugging tailing auger

Old_Pokey

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In fescue with a 1680 I run the front section near closed, the center section at 1_2"+, and the tail section of the chaffer at 5_8". Shoe at 1_4"+. Old style paddle fan at 590 to 610rpm. If you shut the machine down loaded, maybe you can see if the material is centered or not. You may be overloading one side. Try going to 700-750 rotor and opening your concaves to about 1_2" tighter than the grates. Other than that, it could be mechanical. If the chain paddles are bent, you may need a new chain. Or if the chain is'nt plugged when you open the door, the input auger up at the front of the tailings conveyor may need attention. The input auger is a real pain in grass if it has any wear to the flighting at all. If you find it to be the problem, put a smaller sprocket on it to overdrive just the auger part to help get the material away from the chain better. Hope something there will help you. I dont have the tailings problem anymore, I built my own super high capacity tailing conveyor and it does not ever plug.
 

Chuckm

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I am going to ask the "stupid question" here. I understand and can see the value of shutting a machine off loaded. You could see everything. My question is how in the world to do get it going again without eating a rotor belt or cleaning the machine outIJ
 

Farm_Kid2

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More than likely the overloaded grain return is caused by too little air at the rear of the sieve. If you crank the air up, high velocity air at the front of the sieve blows material clear out the back. The fix is to get the proper air split from front to rear. This device will do that.
 

farm41

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concaves are already closed, right down on the spikes, The chain is packed when the door is opened. I was wondering if the return elevator paddles could be worn too far downIJ Had a few problems last year with the return in sugar beets. I'll check the paddles for bent and broken. I have my sieves at 1_2" front and middle, closed at the rear, shoe is 3_8"
 

Farm_Kid2

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You could try closing the front of the chaffer completely and then turning the air up. I'm not familiar with cutting fescue, can you accurately guage the loss over the chaffer with the grain loss monitorIJ If yes, then you may be able to find a combination that will keep the MOG suspended over the rear of the chaffer, which should cut your return volume way down, but does not throw too much grain out the back.
 

Marv

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I'm pretty sure CaseIH puts the instructions for the shutdown procedure in the operator's manual. I've done it in the past with no problem restarting the machine. It's been a while, but I think while one is harvesting at the normal pace he simultaneously shuts down the engine, hits the brakes, and shoves the hydro lever full forward. As soon as everything stops, restart the engine so it doesn't overheat any components. I think you can drop the concaves before restarting the separator and it then starts easily.
 

Old_Pokey

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Yep, thats pretty much it. If you're just combineing long at your regular load, you're simply shutting down that way. You're not plugged. (or should'nt be) I just walked in from running some second year fescue and I used the quick kill for tuning several times just today. I've done it in grass, wheat and clovers. I dont know about corn or beans. But when you start the machine up, you leave the header disengaged. Dont rev the motor up much, just a little and put it in gear at the same time it engages, run the throttle up too. Its absolutely one of the most valuable tools for diagnosing a problem.
 

Old_Pokey

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It can be pretty tough to trust a moniter for most grasses. The seed is just so light and small. The other problem is, the settings vary so greatly from year to year and from variety to variety. This year in my area the seed is good and heavy for the variety that I was in today, but the variety that I will be in tomorrow may very well use a completly different setting on the fan and chaffer. The tailings elevator has a tough time with it cause the material is so light and fluffy it jams between the paddles and the elevator housing real easy. And then when it drops off the paddles to the input auger, the stuff will float above the auger till it gets heavy enough to catch the flighting and then it will be too much for the auger to take in one gulp. I have several pictures I've been taking this year and will post them somewhere after harvest. I took some of the machine shut down full today. p.s. The gorden bars are working awesome:) I've never had such a clean tank sample before.
 

Chuckm

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Thanks guys......I asked it for all those who were too embarrased to do so...... :)
 

Old_Pokey

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There is absolutly nothing to be embarrased about. You should see some of the questions I ask and I've been farming all my life (I'm 42) There's just different practices in different ares of the country and world. Next I'm going to start asking how a flex header works:) Thats whats so cool about a site like this. You get to hide behind a nickname:) hee hee.
 
 
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