Combines R series VS l2

[Red]

you talking about the one at high plains in dodgeIJIJIJ

 

[Ks_dirt_farmer]

No This one is in McPherson. What is the one in Dodge like, Thanks

 

[Silver_Bullet]

Could you possibly move up to an early R62 or 72IJ I think you will be much happier with one of those over an R70.

 

[red]

oh i don't really know for sure but they want 24k for it i stopped to look at it once and got ran off by a salesman ha ha i was just lookin and he was ready to move it. so i got outa there fast just so tempatation wouldn't get to me. i think it has about 4000hrs on it and its been welded on a bit on the back axle. if i were wanting it i would try to get them to come down on it but they probably won't but they should. Red

 

[Mike]

Here in Il the Duetz motors are hard to move. Repairs while easy are very expensive. The Duetz was a good motor, just not good in a dirty environment. Yes they will work if you blow the dirt out of the every day. So will a Cummins and you won't have to blow it out all the time. Go with a 2 series. I would take a 52 over a 60 any day in terms of maintenance and cost of ownership.

 

[John]

Same here in Central Iowa. The late Ns and the 2 series with the Cummins are much faster movers. Too many Deutz Gleaners have had overheating with the fins being plugged too easily. Great tractor engine, just too many problems with combine use here.

 

[Tom_Russell]

Do your engines have oil or fuel leaks that cause dust to stick on cooling finsIJ An annual cleaning is all I have to do. Secondly, I never use water because it sometimes causes dust to stick on wet surfaces. A few minutes blowing with an air gun is all I have to do. I had a super clean l2 and M2 before buying a used R60 and wouldnt even consider going back. A 2 series is definitely better, but so is the price.

 

[Mike]

The Duetz motors seem to very individualistic, if you will. Some need to be blown out twice a day(R62 Duetz with 30' head in beans and 8 row head in corn) if the outside temp is in the upper 80's low 90's. Some are as you say, clean them once a year(especially with undersized headers on low acreages). I have found those to be rare as most need it at least daily, especially in beans, wheat and milo. The Duetz is a good motor, but the parts to overhaul with be 2-3 times more than the cummins. I think the Duetz has more torque than the Cummins. To me and in our area the Dueatz is probably $10-15K less value if all other things are equal.

 

[John]

Well Tom, the 2 area dealers that I have done business with since 1975 had nothing but trouble with the Deutz Gleaners they sold, not oil leaks, the fins would fill with, mainly soybean fuzz and corn chaff and would either burn up the back two cylinders or in a couple cases caused the engine compartment to burn. And for some reason the cooling fans would go bad about every two seasons. They lost more customers over the Deutz engines than they did with the early Ns. One of these dealer pretty much refuses to trade for a Deutz Gleaner. Both have made the statement that if Agco hadn't gone to the Cummins engine, they would have no more Gleaner customers. There are still quite a few late Ns, like mine and lots of 2 series in the area with more each year. Around here, Deutz ruined Allis Chalmers tractors and almost took Gleaner with them. The local salvage yard has had several burned DA 71 and 91 series tractors. Engine compartment fires, salvage yard has no history as to why they burned. But with that said, the dealers are still willing to trade in the tractors. I honestly haven't seen a Deutz engine Gleaner in the local area running, in over 5 years. The local man that had the R60 burn on him said that he missed blowing the engine out 1 day and blew the back 2 jugs, and had a minor fire going when the monitor went off. He very proudly owns an R62. I, as a pilot, looked over the design and designs of air cooled engines decided that the Deutz would not be good in extremely dusty conditions. Mount St. Helens ash destroyed many airplane engines in the era of that disaster. The Volcanic ash is smaller particles than bean fuzz and corn chaff and it plugged and destroyed many engines. Consider yourself lucky. Note that no North American related manufacturer uses the Deutz design in a combine but still uses the design in tractors. That says alot in itself!

 

[meadowgreen]

Have 92 R52 with Deutz, keep engine dry-no problems. An oil or fuel leak will cause much anxiety(When will she catch fire) Been there- done that. We ran 20 ft. head, 90 acres_day. Clean engine every other day if needed. Alot of bean fuzz this year. Need to replace fan this year. Would really like '98 or newer machine with tilt. I've seen tractor engines that had fins completely choked with oil and dirt brought into shop and owner didn't want to clean. But when engine quit, guess who's fault it was.