Combines R series VS l2

[T__langan]

I agree with you 100% Tom. All the Deutz engines that were_are in Gleaners needed was a conscientious operator. As you said, get the oil leaks fixed, blow the fins and coolers out each day (same as we do with the radiators on the Allis and Cummins water cooled, and the Deutz will give long, reliable service and one heckuva lotta grunt. We really like the Cummins we have in our R52, but given a choice on a new combine, price being the same, I wouldn't hesitate to choose the Deutz again. BTW, we ran a 6-30 head on the R50 so it wasn't oversized for the head we ran as someone mentioned. There may be, however, regional differences in bean hybrids_varieties that cause beans in some areas to have nastier "fuzz". We certainly never had problems enough to cause jugs to burn or cause engine fires if we skipped a daily service. It is also darned rare to hear complaints of the Deutz engines in tractors - most owners are more than pleased with them and they require even less service, by far, than in a combine application. Of the two Deutz Allis tractors we own, they get an annual complete cleaning where we remove side panels, hoods, air covers, ect and get completely blown out. We have yet to discover any areas around the fins that have become plugged - and both tractors are used a considerable amount on the haybine where 1st cutting hay often times contains a lOT of dandilion "fuzz" floating toward the tractor, depending on wind. Tom langan

 

[camshaft]

John, What's the name of your local wreckerIJ or tel numberIJ I've been calling wreakers here and can't find one with a 9150. TIA..............Cam

 

[NDDan]

Talking V8s hear we have had great luck. Check with previous owner to see if he had some sort of engine problem. Most machines will run years without a good cleaning. That don't mean you don't need to check it regular. If excess pluging you need to check air intake between rotary screen and engine fan. If no suction leaks check fitup between rotary screen and combine side. Also check the tins inside rotary screen to see they are adjusted up close to screen. You should never have big pieces of anything that gets by the rotary screen. If fine dust is the problem you can divert air intake upward like some vulcano fallout areas have done. Have dealer check injectors and set valves. Also have him check air pressure inside engine cowling with water manometer. Have them replace fan if less than 6" at 2300RPM with hot oil. New fan will produce toward 8". Reroute or do what you have to to get hoses off of floor under engine and keep it blown ClEAN. Not hard to do at all if kept up. No worse than blowing radiators. Get a good look at the rest of machine for you may of found yourself a gem but on the other hand!!!! 13 seasons in someone elses hands could mean just about anything. Be sure to plan on a couple hyper upgrades to ease its life and you will likely be very pleased. Good luck

 

[Tom_Russell]

Hi Dan, have you considered posting your comments on the Tips pageIJ Earlier discussion indicates there are a few Deutz owners who need help. One of the first things I did after buying the R60 was re-routing hoses under the engine as you mentioned. Now I can clean that area with a leaf blower. Are you guys on the northern prairie keeping warmIJ Temp in southern Minnesota got above zero yesterday and it felt like a heat wave.

 

[NDDan]

Not a bad idea putting on TIPS page but if I misspell something it will be there forever. Wouldn't the search feature hear be great. Someone made mention of another way to search this site and I'll have to go and try find that post. As most guys were afraid of the air cooled engine when they first showed up I was too. I checked and tweaked the rotary screens on the first air cooled machines for fear of plugging. After the first year or two I got comfortable and started ignoring the screens more and more. I found rotary screens worked much better on the air cooled machines than they did on the liquid machines. I'm sure they worked better because they use less air thus less vacuum inside rotary screen area which would help prevent suching in large enough material from a leak on suction side to plug things up. Sounds like the main complaint with the air cooled pluging is soybean fuzz and I don't know if that can be helped out or not. We have no problem there but if we did we would surely look into why. I bet rotary screen could be adjusted or fine tuned to prevent problem especially when problem is spuratic. I'm glad you found out that engine compartment is easy to keep clean if things are streamlined a bit and one makes an effort to keep it clean. The two series with air cooling are easier yet to keep clean if the blade is in fair condition. And yes we have kept warm up hear but quite a challenge when we kept teasing negative 40 degrees F or C for so many days. I got to tell you I kept thinging about the coldest day or night I ever remember and it was during a snowmobiling trip up north in your great state. We were camped out in northern Minnesota in a deer hunting shake that only had a old wood stove for heat. Mercury dissapeared in our thermometer but in town the next day they said it hit 50 below F. The rubber snowmobile drive belts do not bent at 50 below so we brought the belts inside to soften up. We were lucky in that it warmed up to negative 20F by 10:00 in the morning. looks like a real heat wave today for it looks to be 32 degrees F above!!!! Take care