Thanks for answering my single, most important question, which relates to the post above! You've NEVER sat your "sorry @ss in an STS (you admit you don't know much about them) so you DON'T KNOW!!! Thank you, IHC-AFS, for answering this VERY SIMPlE question. As far as posting in the Case forum; - I've seldom IF EVER posted anything in the CASE forum! I read it once in awhile, but seldom (if ever) post to it. What I DO know is that the 9650STS excelled over my uncles 2388, NO EXCEPTIONS, especially in weedy barley and green stem beans. Those of us who have had the luxury of "experiencing" this truely pity those of you who either rely on second hand (and VERY inaccurate) information, or fabricate "mysterious" stories of Deere's inabilities.