Jo JO mac, good reply, thank you. Sorry i did put 7.1 instead of 8.1 litre need to read my typing before i post it. Anyway if you are from Illinois, three dealers take care of illinois, and one is St louis and one is chicago, but the one that runs from litchfield to peoria to cedar rapids iowa, they are they ones that are going to have to get the combines moving, and from shat i hear they are building a ag store about 10 miles south of bloomington to get a centralized ag store. I think deere is waiting for cat to get out of the ag market. Cat spent somewhere around 200 million dollars last year on research and devolopment just on ag. to me that means that they are not going to fold up shop. they combine plant in omaha is still on schedule for 2002 production so there is a lot of postivives that cat is showing and hopefully when they get theat plant up it and start using some american sourced parts it will lower the price of that combine. Where cat is going to excel now is the 5000-10000 acre farmer who is worried about time to get the crop in, not the 500 acre farmer. I realize that this is a claas combine but in the world class is the n1 selling combine