I run a 60 machine with standard rotor. Disrupters and green maize bars (they replace the long, straight, smooth bars in the rear half of the rotor) helped me wonders, but i can still rope when its extremely tough (past when any reasonable person should be in the field, and way past any deere). I run my concave on .5-1.5, rotor speed 800-900. I don't know how 80 rotor speeds should compare to 60's.