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[seedman]

We have a 8410. All are similar except for more electronic gizmos, etc. Post this question on Machinery Talk and you will get some more comments. http:__dgroups.agriculture.com_n_pfx_forum.aspxIJwebtag=agmachineandnav=messages

 

[boog]

We replaced a MX 240 with an 8310. I was talking to the deere salesman the other day about the 20s. I commented that I had heard some of the guys who had traded their oos and 10s for 20 series were disappointed in the lack of "umph" in the 20s. He said it was because of the epa regs on the pumps. This was our complaint in going from a 7240 to a MX 240

 

[Chads]

What was your experience with the 8310 vs the MXIJ Chads

 

[boog]

We were disappointed in the 240 as far has lugging power goes compared to the 7240 we traded in on it. We also didn't care for the shift button and the throttle being together in 1 unit. Sounds nice but in realality the throttle was too sensitive and when you shifted gears it would cause the throttle to move, not what you want when trying to maintain a certain rpm when spraying or planting. We didn't care for the park_ gear selector shift being in front of the steering wheel- while looking behind when backing up it was too easy to think you had put it in park only to let out the clutch and find out you had put it in forward by mistake. Also the deere seems to have more lugging power than the 240, too narrow of an rpm range on the 240 from noload to outta power . Another problem was in the fall when doing fall tillage in cornstalks the leaves and shucks would swirel between the front wheels and cab glass and eventually plug the air intake screen, usually had to stop at least once every two hrs. Auto-climate control was a joke, would switch from full cold to full heat especially in the fall. 240 had 7 transmission shift update pakeages downloaded into it in 18 months.Several electrical problems including fuel sending unit quitting which required the fuel tanks being drained and lowered to get to. One advantage the 240 had over the 8310 is roominess and quietness of the cab.

 

[Chads]

Thanks for the reply. The left hand shuttle was a successful feature from the Maxxum's. However, it's probably not really needed on a tractor this size. A couple of neighbors swithched from 7240's to MX 240's also, and wished they had their 7240's back. Emmissions controls have really screwed these tractors up. The good news would seem to be that they actually use a little less fuel than the green ones. I also worry about electrical problems on all these new tractors. My 5140 has a couple of little Gremlins that pop up once in a while. One thing I like about the 7120 is that you move the shifter and it moves the rod and you can atleast get the thing in gear to move it. Chads

 

[dakota]

The differences are in details. The 10 series already got the PTO coast. So you don't bust sheer bolts off anymore, when switching off the PTO. Older 00 series might shift rougher. The shifting has been constantly refined throughout the years. The 20 series have more power, better lights, IlS and active seat as options. We have the active seat. It's amazing what it does. The drawbar is still a weak point if you pull grain carts. JD didn't tighten the bolts well and they rattle out. We loctite those and always run a log chain under the drawbar up to the threepoint.

 

[boog]

We haven't compared the 8310 to the MX on fuel per acre usuage but the deere seems to use a little more fuel. I wasn't sure if it just seemed that way because of the smaller fuel tank on the deere or actual usage. Probably when it comes down to actual fuel used per acre there wouldn't be much of a difference.

 

[Chads]

All I really know about it is what I heard these two guys comment. The one neighbor owned the MX's, the other guy drove the JD's as an employee. The MX owner commented, man, our 240's use X amount of fuel, it sure seems bad. The other guy commented, heck that's nothing, we use at least X much more than that. They were talking about Gallons of fuel per hour. Seems the MX was using about 12 under a hard pull, and the Deere was using up around 14. However, the Deere's never have been as good on fuel as the IH's, or the Magnums. Chads

 

[Chads]

Does the active seat hold upIJ Word from guys running them on pans is that they are having problems with them. Not sure exactly what. But I know one particular contractor replaced two in the same tractor under warranty. Seems the operator was "bigger" guy. Chads

 

[dakota]

The tractor has probably 600 hours done on the grain cart, no problems. We only had skinny guys on it so far.