Combines trade 2 1680 s for 8010 IJIJIJIJ

[weber]

Have you considered getting a newer 2388 with the afx rotor and then keeping one of your older machines as a back up and use it when help is available. The newer machine will give you lots of capacity over what you are running now. If help is the issue an 8010 isnt going to gain you as much as you will need, more trucks and grain karts to keep that hog going.. Just my thoughts.. Shawn

 

[Unit_2]

Weber is correct about getting a 2388 with an AFX rotor. When I'm cutting in 225 bpa irrigated corn with just one of my AFX 2388s with a grain cart and two tandem trucks hauling farther than just a mile or two I have to do a lot of waiting. One day when things were going good and I didn't have to wait I was getting a little over 3000 bu per hour.

 

[Chuckm]

Unit 2, Great point. I have a friend that cut corn with an 8010 (12 row, 30" header) for the first time year this year. He said that their challenge for sure was hauling it away, and that it took more people than with (2) 1680's. On 3_4 mile rounds, with two grain carts and 5 full semi's he was still waiting quite often. Sure, they eliminated a combine but they added a grain cart and two trucks. look at all the people involved in that operation for a single combine ..... Chuck

 

[kinzepower]

Need more info. Do you run a buggy with your current set-upIJ All things being equal, I would say DEFINETlEY get one big combine to replace the 2. Assuming you now average 2000 bu_hr_combine, you could do that amount with 1 8010. Again this is assuming you have the infastructure to truck 4000bu_hr out of the field. It is easier to truck 4000 bu_hr from one combine than it is from 2. You should be able to save one man from your operation.

 

[canuck]

long hard hours...too many acres....thinking about going bigger..Been there done that. Bought a whole bunch of pencils and a couple of sharpeners. Finally worked out the answer...DOWNSIZE. Big operations are becoming less feasible every year. Machinery and fuel are going crazy and diesel will be $8 a gallon in 4 years. Artificial drying will more expensive than the corn is worth. Neither a 8010 or a 2388 will pick corn. Do some research. Hate to see anybody make a real big mistake.

 

[kinzepower]

That's a pretty bold statement. Where are you from CanuckIJ Around here...bigger works.

 

[CORNKING]

Man I think I will take Canucks advise and replace 2 8010s with let see 4 to 6 1460s. Then maybe my pencil will be so sharp I break the lead. Then what do we do CanuckIJ Still lol. That is not happening around here the farms are getting larger and a lot of it is done with cash.

 

[canuck]

Everything is a cycle. 150 years ago trains came, then they were slowly replaced by trucks, and now due to shipping costs the trains are reappearing. What many don't realise is that North America depends totally on foreign energy and by totally I mean that without it we can not farm. Without Saudi oil our fuel would be sold by the shot glass and fertilizer above $1000 a ton. The National debt is about $150,000 per capita so we cant realistically pay for the oil we are getting. As we speak China is buying and can afford to pay for energy even though they presently only use 4% as much as we do per person. Can you live by only using 4% of the oil that you are used toIJ Don't shoot the messenger but things have to change

 

[kinzepower]

Yea...UMMM...no. I assume by your name that you are Canadian. We are a exporter of oil and natural gas. Ever hear of AlbertaIJ The oil sands in Fort McMoney (I mean McMurry) is the second largest oil researve in the WORlD!!! The concern always has been there is the cost of extracting the oil from the sand was not profitable unless crude oil was over (about, I think) $20_barrel. last time I checked, it is above that threashold. Our dollar has been climbing with the price of oil because Canada is deemed an energy based economy around the world. I think I am going to up Cornking one and trade off my class 7 combine for a bunch of men and horses so I can get my harvest productivity down to a couple acres_man_day where the profit realy is.

 

[canuck]

Very intuitive. I'm a born Albertan. Just a few facts. We are bound to supply the US with energy which will empty our reserves at an alarming rate. The cost of extraction is based on the price of energy and the $20 you quoted might well have been so when oil was $25 a barrel. As crude value goes up so does the price on extraction and refinement( yes I worked in energy_petrochemical for 25 years) Refineries use natural gas in their process and basically take this energy and convert it to something we can easily put in our tank. Much like ethanol which uses 29% more natural gas energy than is in the ethanol. If you wish google "hubberts peak oil" for some entertaining and eye opening reading Have a great day