Combines Whats the most trouble some area on a GleanerIJ

[NDDan]

I thought about using two of the same original bearings side by side. There was not enough casting to do this. I'm wondering how you did this to maintain a ledge for OD of bearing to limit moving of sheave. Next thing that comes to mind is would both your bearings be supported on shaftIJ Might want to examine both bearings when you take apart to see if they both got the divots from where balls were sitting. Got to be good reason you didn't see very noticable extended life. Bearing with double rows of balls is exactly the same OD and ID but 1_3 wider (10mm) is a BCA 5210KZZE. We bore the housing the extra 10mm and make it a slip fit (.001 to .005" clearance). It was the inner bearing you did right!!

 

[NDDan]

Hard to know whats happening there Brian. Surely is a uncommon one for us to lose. I'd suggest to be sure that bearing fits freely on shaft and rotate shaft as you tighten flange nuts. Be sure clutch idler bearings are not putting pressure on lock collar and lock the collar after flange nuts are tightened. Rest of shaft will come out easy from the point your at if you wish. Three bolts next to rotary union will allow it to slide to the left or the four bolts on sheave that is retaining the bearing. First remove hose and fitting from rotary union and be carefull not to allow weight of sheave to drop and bend rotary union. Got to be something goofed there and hope you can find it. Good luck

 

[NDDan]

I wouldn't worry so much about them bearings running when unloading. In fact that likely helps you more than it hurts unless bearing and or bearing are getting quite noisy. It would help the bearing balls get a fresh shot of grease and likely sit at a little different spot when you re engage. If bearings are allowed to get noisy enough to cause outer race to start working in sheave you will be looking at new sheave or machine work to get it back to normal. If someone will take a look at bearing getting noisy you will see the little divots being left from balls sitting in one place to long. Getting twice as many balls sitting in one place has got to dramatically extend life so we got the protos running.

 

[NDDan]

Shoes on 5 series have 3 boards with individual lights in cab pointing out the one getting the action. Your right about cylinder loss pad but I don't know where you could possibly mount in discharge area. Where it is mounted now it is not pointing out loss crop in fact it is saved crop that is getting saved toward end of rotor. It may not be crop at all if you are grinding up the straw and forcing threw cage. Anyway I would be interested how you have rotor setup and what crop bothers. Have you did any moding with helical bars above feeder, reverse cylinder bars or do you have cylinder bars extended to discharge. Might have to do something about the excess grinding if you have shoe load problem. For the guys with unloader swivel problems and grain tank floor problems. Unloaders have been greasable for nearly twenty years but need to be greased. Floors in hopper of 65 and 75s are doubled and can be put in 62 and 72s. Still need to prevent hoppers from staying wet for long, stay away from polls, trucks, and trees with unloader tube. This is the stuff that starts the problem and if not corrected properly it will keep re occuring. Have a great day.

 

[mo]

"where you could possibly mount in discharge area" is just at the bottom of the chute right above the straw spreader. If I remember right the wire is just long enough to be rerouted without adding on. Care must be taken so that straw etc does not hangup on the mount as it will build up and plug the whole shebang or so I'm told cause maybe that might happen to someone who was so STUPID as to build a straw catcher right there but of course no one on this board would do anything like that right...would maybe. Anyway after streamlining it works quite nicely at detecting grain sliding down the chute which is where it is. That is to say it is not in the mog. I have the fast helicals in thresher, triangle, Six disrupters at two locations in first separator section, two reverser's in second section (can't remember the ABCD thing, depends on which way the machine is parked),every other rod removed from the last half of the separator grate and extended bars in discharge. Rotor loss is essentially ZERO. The trade off is heavier shoe loading. This is in 40-100+ bu wheat. A kill shut down reveals a large pile at the end of thresher beginning of separator area. This is right where the pheasant trail is. I've several ideas for dispersing this congestion. I've got the distribution auger troughs AKA toboggans about right although I think I have to add some pins in places. I'm going to angle off the end of the toboggans so they don't just dump in one place but disperse along a wider area _. In a week the machine comes in the shop and we'll see if any of them are feasible. July of 06 we'll see if they work. Anything a guy does has to be readily reversible_removable as ideas don't work or conditions change. Doing this kind of thing give one heightened respect for the designers who have to do this daily and address conditions around the globe.

 

[NDDan]

Here's some things I learned in grass harvesting. Take the toboggans out that I was tring to even shoe load with. Install the sweeps. We even have the factory installed toboggans out (not that that matters). We don't run any reverse bars or disrupters. You have adjustable seperator grate if you should need to address some cylinder loss. I even have a couple two or three machines with all seperator grate wires removed with no problem on shoe. Them machines have double set of sweeps. I only have all wires out because they were out when I had cage material type covers over the grate. I removed the covers to basically clean it up in there after installing sweeps. My favorite setup for low narrow wire seperator grates is remove every other wire, block the exposed holes from missing wires with plastic plugs, then build up the existing wires by welding wire pieces on top of them. What do you thinkIJ

 

[Rolf]

Having some trouble with the returns in patches of green crop! Runs well in the dry stuff but if you have a green patch when the repeats are back into the Acc rollers the repeats block at the top. I hope they (Engineers!!!) have redesigned the returns to be of bigger dimensions all over to cope with more green material. Rolf