Combines Where was the 8010 at Dakota FestIJ

George_2

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Vincent is selling Cat's for three very good business reasons: 1. Toromont (the Cat franchise in Ontario) wont have anything to do with them. 2. There are a lot of diehard European immigrant farmers in Ontario who won't have anything else. They buy them in Michigan only to discover no service support exists here. There is one only a few miles from me that came from Michigan. So they are only providing a service to make a buck. 3. The 2377 and 2388 are so popular elsewhere that none were available in Ontario this year unless the dealers had them ordered by early last year. They like most other CIH dealers in Ontario have none in stock. In retrospect, the Ontario dealers were caught by surprise at the few that were available. This was partly due to the switchover to production at Grand Island and generous US farm support programs that fuelled a large increase in US demand The stingy Canadian programs offered little. Already the situation for supply in 2006 doesn't look much better. So bear in mind if a dealer has no combines to sell he doesn't make any sales profit. So it was only natural where your supplier can't supply with reasonable timing terms, and a demand exists, any dealer will sell what is available especially when there is a ready market amongst the newly arrived European immigrant farmers.
 

MostlyGreen

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I wasn't aware of any Axial-Flow shortages. My neighbor ordered a 2377 last March and had it in plenty of time for wheat. I priced a 2388 in May and was assured I'd have it in time for soy's! This is my year to deal and, so far, the Massey's looking the best out of all of them.
 

Harvester

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Yes, actually I do. After working on combines for over 20 years, I've seen good ideas and not-so-good ideas, so I tend to call a spade a spade, and the STS has simply never impressed me over what other combines can do. Granted, it is impressive when you put it in the field against a 9600_9610 etc. but then again, nearly everything is. I admit that I have little respect for the STS and just shake my head in bewilderment that the worst rotary design on the market has the highest market share. What does that say about those who buy combinesIJ If you read my post, you would see that I certainly don't consider the 8010 to be a rock solid combine; the 2388, yes, but not the 8010. It does have a good deal of potential for improvement. I have to say that the dealer in Ontario made the right choice. The lexion is a far superior combine than the 8010 is currently or ever likely can be. A Case dealer selling 8010s is doing his job by towing the company line, even in these tough times for CaseIH combines. The Ontario dealer probably had his own and his customer's best interests in mind and switched to a better machine.
 

MostlyGreen

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I would have to agree with you as to your comments concerning "the dealer towing the company line" when marketing 8010's. Deere dealers could be accused of "the same" as far as STS's are concerned. All I'm stating is that the STS is an impressive machine in green, stemmy conditions; - that's it! As far as servicability, affordability or functionality is concerned, well, I'm not impressed either. I'm very happy with my 9660 walker and wouldn't trade it for ANY STS. (I might be trading it on a Massery, though).
 
 
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