Combines 400 HP STS for 2003 IJ

[Green_Reaper]

Yes this is true.Some farmers in my area actually bought and ran one of these machines last fall.From what I know it was some sort of deal to test it for Deere.

 

[swede]

I simply read the first post,and it is telling me that JD doesn't want anyone to know about next year's models.So when a person buys a combine ahead,JD makes the customer sign an agreement that he won't tell anyone.The customer signs the agreement,then tells the neighbor about it,who in turn goes on the internet with the info.Which part do I have wrongIJ It sounded like someone was trying their best to let a secret be known.That's why I wondered if the initial thought was being floated out like a whispering campaign.Companies can be quite sneaky at times.Peace.

 

[RJT]

Jd is trying hard to get my deal. I supose you only trade with Deere so you don't what they will do to trade in a competive brand. I have an open mind and am seriously looking at both. I just asked a question about this new model okayIJ I wouldn't want to buy one only to find out it was replaced by a newer model next fall. You now of course there is only $7500 difference between a 9650sts and a 9750sts, which is why I asked on the Gleaner board about the $20000 difference between the 65 and 75. I'm trying to get all the facts I can before makeing a decision. I have farmed for more than 40 years and usually keep my combine for 8 to 10 years before trading so its a little more important to me than someone who trades every year. Peace, I hope you understand

 

[RJT]

John if you are the same John that posts on the Gleaner board I see you have a 20 year old Gleaner. If you could buy a new combine this year wouldn't you try to get all the info you could. I thought that was the purpose of this board. I only have John Deere and Gleaner Dealers close by. I hope to have one or the other bought by the end of the year, Then I won't ask you guys anymore questions for another 10 years.

 

[SilverTurnedGreen]

It's "no secret" that combine technology can be the "worst-kept secret" when it comes to testing prototypes. Our neighbor had an experimental TX903 Massey rotary on his farm back in 1979 or 1980, and the entire neighbourhood knew more than the engineers did about that combine before it left his place, and he also signed a confidentiality agreement beforehand. I, too, believe this was Massey's method to "quietly get the word out" about impending technology, in this case to (perhaps) stave-off potential lost Massey sales to IH (at the time).

 

[Big_Green]

If your going to keep it 10 years dont want to get a gleaner!! We had an N6 and it was always broke down after it was a couple years old.Had a 6600 before that and it never broke down. We went to a 7720 titin 2 after the n6 and it wasnt impressive at all but my grandads 7720 titian would out do ours but ours was a rice_bean special that had been adapted to a regular wheat_milo and we think that was part of it. Then went to a 9600 after the ole 7720 and never have regretted it.The only think we do not like is the automatic reel speed control. It doesnt match up with the grounds speed and then when you shut the header and walker off you have to recalibrate it-

 

[swede]

RJT,if I misunderstood your first post,then I was wrong,and I am sorry. I saw just enough information in it to cause me to be suspicious. The combine in question is not an experimental prototype,but rather a regular production run for this coming season as I recall.The combines might possibly be rolling down the assembly line as we speak;so why all the secrecy on Deere's part when these machines will be distributed shortly anyhowIJI did not anticipate a wide-reaching changeover on the STS so soon that it needed to be kept under wraps.That's what made me think there might be something extra curious about the confid. agreement. BTW,I should be registered here.Didn't think it was possible to sneak under the fence here.Maybe I didn't capitalize my nickname.Anyway,I felt like I should offer to clear the air here.This is a good forum provided by Mr.Gorden,and I don't want to be messing it up.

 

[northernfarmer]

I know hp = capacity in a rotary combine, but how are you going to keep it full to take advantage of the 400 hp. Most rotary combines have to be kept right full to do a job. 400 hp sounds like a little much to me.

 

[John]

WhyIJ Because there are more 20+ year old Gleaners out there doing the yearly harvest than Deere! The first 3-4 years of N Gleaners had just as many problems as the current STS Deere. Gleaner refined their rotary in 3 years, Deere should be getting close on the STS too. I can't understand why Deere has had the problems with the STS with 20 years of several technologies to look at and learn from. I didn't buy my Gleaner for resale, I bought it for performance and design and longevity, it's twenty and quite healthy. I has yet to lose to the STS in any. The several STS's in this dealer area are increasing the sales of the Deere conventionals to the Deere diehards! One STS owner went lexion this Fall and smiling at the end of harvest. I don't know of one STS trade from the local dealer that went STS again, all went conventional or color change. Is the STS why Deere preached for twenty years that rotary doesn't workIJ Everybody else sure seems to have a good working design. And how many Deere owners do their own repair and yearly maintenanceIJ The Trend is here that NONE DO, every problem is a service truck or semi haul to the dealer. A high percentage of the Gleaner owners do all the yearly maintenance and a majority of the repairs themself. I own a Deere product and get the regular service package deals sent to me. Dealers begging for me to pay them on work that is fairly simple. Oil changes, filters, greasing, level checks. In my years with Gleaners, I have done 99% of all service and repairs on the machines, with NEVER having a service truck out or it hauled to the dealer, I have driven it 20 miles to the dealer for minor internal engine work.

 

[Wheat_Reaper]

Reading some of the posts below on this, I say why does it matter that Deere owners take their combines to the dealer to get them serviced instead of doing it themselves. Some of these guys are making a big deal out of who services their combine. There is nothing wrong with taking their machine to the dealer to get it serviced. These other guys think they are special or something just because they do their repairs and service themselves, and it seems to me that most of the ones complaining own another brand besides Deere. As long as the machine gets serviced or repaired that is all that matters as far as I am concerned. And as far as I am concerned, there is no other combine other than a Deere.