Combines 400 HP STS for 2003 IJ

[BIG_TRUCK]

READ ABOUT A FARMER IN EASTERN ENGlAND WHO TRADED THREE JD CONVENTIONAlS FOR TWO 465HP 9880 STS,S THEY GAVE TROUBlE IN HEAVY CROP WHEAT (5TON_ACRE) WITH THE MAIN ROTOR DRIVE BElT SlIPPING. JD TRIED TO CORRECT THIS BY REMOVING SOME lUGS FROM THE BElT DIDN,T SEEM TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE (TOO MUCH HORSE PERHAPSIJ) BUT THEY COUlD HARVEST 60TON_HOUR ON GOOD GOING DAYS.

 

[Big_Green]

It is not rotary it is SINGlE TINE SEPARATION.And yes it does need some kinks worked out but they are corn monsters!!

 

[pudh]

So I guess that means it's a conventionalIJ Don't know a thing about the STS, because, like John, we run Gleaner.

 

[John]

Yup, and CaseIH is an AXIAl FlOW, not a word said there about it being ROTARY. Tell the CaseIH man that his 2388 isn't Rotary!!! Gleaner started with a NATURAl FlOW(N),not a word of ROTARY there either, but as a Gleaner owner I'll laugh in your face if you tell me it isn't a ROTARY, Deutz changed the same design to R for ROTARY. New Holland is a Twin ROTOR. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it must be a duck. Same is true for a Rotary combine! Gleaner is by far the most distant to rotary designs and it is a Rotary, just turned sideways for better grain cleaning with the air blast and accelerator rolls and excellent sidehill performance.

 

[Big_Green]

No it is SINGlE TINE SEPARATION. But the gleaner rotary just looks like a big cylinder to me but the cage goes all the way around it.

 

[John]

Gleaner is a lateral design and all the rest are longitudinal design. The Gleaner has distribution auger_augers under the cage as does everyone else and then dropped to the shoe_grainpan just like the rest. Gleaner just accelerates the grain under the augers to the pan and has a high velocity of air pushed thru the grain as it drops to start a precleaning process with the heavy(grain) entering the shoe on the bottom already. The lateral design also helps considerable with sidehill performance, grain gets to the shoe evenly unlike the rest that tilts load one side or the other of the shoe. Gleaner doesn't wear out parts that the rest need to turn the crop 90 degrees to start the threshing process. No reports of tines or parts blowing off a Gleaner and destroying much of the machine, not even the early N's. If you would really look at the design you should see the simplest most efficient machine on the market, I did, the paperwork was done for an Axial Flow and I took one last look at all the models available at the time of my purchase. Gleaner sold because of capacity, simplicity, sample and sidehill performance.

 

[Big_Green]

They have had the same design for 30 years!! And what is this hyperizingIJ You have to do that to get them to cut worth a dangIJ I remember a post saying a 9600 was out cutting an R72 b_c it wasnt hypered or whatever!!

 

[John]

OK, What changes have CaseIH, NH, White_Massey made since apx 1978IJ Basic minor modifications! Just like the R72 isn't an N7, there is a difference! Processor, shoe, head. And certain crops do better in a conventional design, reason for the Gleaner C62! And if it weren't for companies like Marvin Gordon has most of the combine designs would not evolve. Hyperized takes the simple Gleaner design and gives it even more capacity. Why do Deere owner modify their machines, aka blowers, different bars, after market sievesIJ For more efficiency and better performance! Why can my 20 yr old Gleaner class 6 out-perform a new Deere STS class 7 machine in corn and soybeans yearlyIJ Because it's hyper mods give it the capacity to operate at or above class 7 with the class 6 hp. Will the Deere owners modify the class 7 STS in a few years to operate at or above class 8IJ Or will they wait and spend the money for Deere to do it for themIJ I read regularly of power chips being installed to improve performance of many Deere products and they aren't authorized by Deere. Seems Deere and Gleaner both in one form or another have more capabilities then when they leave the factory. If you can't justify the Hyper mods to a Gleaner than you can't justify the Power Chips, blowers, etc. that don't come direct from the Deere factory that I see most of the Deeres running with in my area. Just don't improve that JD design with a corn reel, Crary or Herschel sickles, non-OEM bars and concaves, feeder house blowers, power chips,.... Will as many 1999 STS JD be operating in 2019 as there are 1982 N series Gleaners in 2002IJ NOT lIKElY! There are already many complaints of tin wearing through on the STS and they haven't seen the acres or hours that most N (1978-1985) Gleaners have. I didn't buy Gleaner because of name, resale or price, I buy (any color)of machine for its design_servicability, capacity_efficiency, and longevity. I'm not married to any manufacturer as many farmers seem to be!

 

[Big_Green]

We would never go back to gleaner and you wouldnt either if you would run a 9600!! Our 9600 has no chips or special bars and it will out cut an 2001 R 72 (and it is a 1995) Just for the fact you can not keep the gleaners running. Face it Gleaners suck!!

 

[R72]

That's bull. I run two 01 72 and have not been out cut by no deere. Plus my machine has not been hauled off the field like my neibhors they are four brothers and run three 9750 STS Each machine has been hauled off the field four time in the last two years. This year they rented a Tx68 to help finish there crop. That's real good on deere's out look.