Combines 8010

Yep. And they may have. I don't know of any 60 series with enough rice hours to compare yet. Anyway, I'm not a JD basher, but the 8010 isn't the only one with some issues.

I believe Chad said something like about you always hear about the problems Case has but never about the machines that didn't break down. You could apply that to JD as well. I have never seen so much STS bashing until I got to these boards and the machinery talk forums. Our dealer sold 12 new STS combines last year and none of them had any problems. Neighbor has a 9750 STS and the only problem they have is their header is too small. A custom cutter who use to work for us runs 3 9650s STS. I asked him about his combines last harvest and they have been good trouble free machines. He is an ex Gleaner owner too. There is one 8010 in our area and I haven't heard one way or the other if it had any problems or not. About the only combines that were a flop around here was the NH CRs. BTW, what problems did the 9000 series haveIJ I am assuming you are talking about tractors. We have one of the first built and it has almost trouble free. I like it better then our 8960 we used to have.

NH were flops in your area and the funny thing is the only problem the CR's have had is derating engines. Not counting the hydros that SaurDanfoss screwed up on the 2002 first 60 or so. If they can ever get all of the right information from either Bosche or IVECO to the dealership level maybe the whole HP issue will dissapear for good.

Mav you are wrong about one thing the same people do not work on both 23s and 8010s. The engineering for 23s is still done in East Moline and will be done there for a few more years and I know that they do not work on 8010s I have a freind that has been there for 32years. He grew up next to me his dad still farms here.

A total of three CRs were sold for last years harvest and all three went down during harves. It was more then just hp on these combines that was the problem. I know one of them sat for at least 2 weeks while the farmer hired custom cutters to take his crop off. He doesn't own a CR anymore. I am not going to say what new combine he bought because it might cause a color war.

So...which John Deere STS model did he buyIJIJIJIJ

9000 series are pretty well known to be weak in the rear end, and some in the trans, that's why deere wouldn't warranty them for pan work. They also have frame breakage issues with the front frames. In normal ag service they're probably adequate, but for any kind of heavy duty service, at least the old ones were a no go. At local JD dealer sale, one last year had front frame welded in 2 places with less than 3000 hrs. One this year had both rearends redone, announced at the sale, with less than 4000 hrs, so I'm not dreamin it up. As for the STS's. I know of 3 personally that have had the rear axles fall off. One other one that was leased out never did have the header height control work right. Can you imagine running a couple thousand acres of beans running a 30 ft platform by handIJ Using frangible material in the threshing area isn't the brightest idea either. They are fine machines, but by no means without their bugs. Chads

Actually, they've got threshing units sitting out behind the research building running on electric motors, with nothing running through em of course! When I asked the engineer type what this simulated, he didn't have a real good answer and mumbles something about "formulas"lOl. Your answere probably just as practical though. Chads

You seem to know a lot of weaknesses in certain products. What problems do the STXs haveIJ

Guess.