Combines 8010Case 585Cat 9760Deere

You're right - don't know sh*t! Realize I meant CR and wrote TR. I appologize, but still prefer the Claas quality. Wish that more issues had been ironed out before 8010 was released, as problems during harvest with a new machine can be difficult. There is no doubt that the 8010 is the technology leader.

lol..its all in fun.. Some of us....(unlike one guy who's been kinda hard one me) enjoy this and don't take it to seriously And yeah i know its regionalized...i just stated what its like in this area..... and every bit of it was true Are they haveing luck with those newer massey'sIJ I looked at one during the louisville farm show and it looked identical to the gleaner. Both looked decent...i just don't like the design as well as the case. (mostly the rotor being turned the wrong way) but thats just me. Also you were right about the heavier auger flighting.....its extra for us..... but that needs to be standard now days...

All very entertaining but makes no financial sense at all. Machines will be worn out long before it pays for itself no matter how sharp the pencil. If energy prices go as predicted a 4 row cornpicker may be the "in " thing with natural gas costing $1+ per bushel to day 25% corn. Don't get me wrong. Big machines interest me as much as the next guy but it is what is ruining farming. Within 100 year the percentage of the population making a living from agriculture went from 45% to 2%. At that rate there will be only one farmer per state soon.

The Massey rotary is a longitudal rotor, same as axial flow (originally the White rotary). The only Massey the same as the Gleaner was the 8680 conventional. Although the cab on rotarys is similar to Gleaner. My uncle has MF 8780XP rotary - it has proven out very well for him. It's the only one in our area. Very poorly represented by dealer (he likes Gleaners).

HUH...i always thought there rotors were turned I looked over the massey combine pretty closely at the lousiville farm show and it looked decent They talked alot about how there are less grease zerks and some other options thanks for the input

Don't think I was insulting his intelligence. Even the most intelligent combine operators take a back seat to tried and true experience, so he likely hasn't had the proper training or enough experience with the machine. As I said, I've found that the lexion is an easier machine to set because it has a broader "sweet spot" than single rotor machines; it is less finicky to changing crop conditions. This is because of its multiple component design and is an advantage. I suppose if we were to assume that the bean had to go through all the steps and components of the lexion before it was threshed and separated, it might seem like it would have a greater risk of being damaged, but remember, most of the beans are threshed and separated in the initial threshing phase. In combines, all is not as it appears to be on the surface; you have to evaluate things more deeply. Perhaps in your county, the Cats have had a few bad apples. That's one county, not the whole world. In my county, the guys with 8010s are dropping them like yesterday's news. Problems range from electronics to the very rotor drive you praise to low power and poor cleaning. Component for component, there is no question that ClAAS has far greater quality in design and workmanship. The 8010 still has some catching up to do before it can run with a lexion.

Are you smoking somethingIJ You sound like a Claas tech that has nothing better to do that try to convince others of your machines greatness. , After you pony up the money for one of these babies, and then your machine is down for 4 days because the part is in Germany, you'd finally understand why this combine probably isn't going to fly "as is". A combine isn't something you need "proper training," to operate. In fact, if its sweet spot is so big, a "proper training." isn't really that important. Heck, just get in and go. I can't really imagine anything easier to set than the 8010. I have ran both combines and that lexion just felt foriegn the whole time I was in it. Never got use to the toggle screens or how a foreign guy was there showing us how to run it. Great, it'll print out avg. bushels per acre, and current combine settings on a piece of paper. WOW! So you could open the door and check your tailingsIJ Big deal. I did like the sound of that engine, I'm a big cat engine lover. Not sure why, but have always liked big cat engines. Claas makes the best silage cutters I've ever been around. Those things flat cut silage, but combines, they aren't that much better or worse than a comparably priced combine whether its john deere or case. Give me a break about how workmanship and design on those combines is superior. I couldn't even get the panels to open up on it or when I was closing the covers on the rotor I couldn't get the clips to close without scraping my fingers up or using two people to finally get everything closed up, one to hold the panel and one to figure out which way they turned. Heck, the US has quite a few states with a bigger GDP than 90 percent of the countries in the world. But what do I know about the US_world economy. I'm just a little guy trying to make it in this crazy world. I can never get the true numbers out of manufactures of combines, but I'd like to know how many combines of each color were sold in the US and world wide in the last year.

They are all junk fellas. $2.00 corn and these dealers want us to pay an unreal amount of money for something that is just a tool for our job, similiar to a carpenter's hammer but every time he swings it he is getting paid by the hour. He can justify buying the hammer. This equipment is just way out of control. Maybe all you guys have a sharper pencil then me but we are in a failing industry that is sinking fast. I have just about had enough of everyone taking a little before it get's to me and I'm left with barely nothing again. Just my comments.

My experience with a 480 demo several years back was a disaster. Combining soybeans we quickly discovered why Cat was taking on a combine line. The thing loved dirt. It ate more dirt in 5 seconds then any of our IH combines injested all together in their lifetimes. Used 75 gallon of fuel sitting in the field or on the headland with the German technician(who was a little blond blue eyed prick)trying to get it to go. The electronics sucked big time. What a yellow pile of junk with no, none, O, zip resale value. I'll betting that combine is sitting in the weeds right now as I write this. There is no way that thing could be combining squat.

Maybe you are at the point where you need to start saying "farming is a lifestyle, not a job." And then just pretend it is not a failing industry.