Combines AGCO

tbran

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I mostly agree. Agco has provided a forum for those who wanted to stay with the companies they bought; they havn't done a lot to entice peoples emotions as to company loyalty. As to my point; the world is full of countries who pay farmers support prices to keep them in business while all the time it would be cheaper to the tax payers of that country to just buy the products from the efficient good old US farmers...... but the politics of that is bearish. We were in Italy a few years ago and found that the Italian dairy farmer was getting 23.95_cwt for support price for his milk. Of course they had a limit as to how much he could produce, or every one in Italy would milk cows. His costs were in line with ours. If the politicians made the decision to drop subsidies and import food, they will want concessions of some type....
 

Tom_s

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like I said in the message below. There still is a market for a smaller line of machine, D17, E or F Gleaner, etc. There are still a lot of producers who use these machines produced back 25 and 30 years ago, today with OEM parts. Not All profitable farms are corporate owned with leased machinery. There IS a market for machines on this scale today, but you can argue about the profitability for Big Green, Blue, or AGCO, and there financial services subsidaries. Now I will say something I refrained from in the message below, that will probably tick you off, but think about this. If the currency exchange rate with overseas markets deteriorates any more in their favor, you may very well see an import take over the tractor and harvesting industry just like they have done in other ag machine markets. I know this stuff has forgien components strewn about, but I am talking a total market control, possibly name and all. If there is a semi profitable market, they WIll import and sell it. My latest pickup was a Jap make manufactured at a huge plant only a few miles form my home here in Tenn. I simply could not afford another GM, and REFUSE to go 5 years in debt for a stinking pickup! My latest utility tractor was also a Jap with a blue name attached, only because there are NO domsetic made machines available to replace a 8-N with, at any price! If the focus where to shift off market share, and keeping share-holders calm; then maybe we could get back to the essential work at hand. Too many white collar CEO's and not enough injuns.Think about it.
 

Tom_S

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I guarantee you those dealers will climb into ANY cab that makes money! Tom S.
 

DEERE1

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I'm sure it is very easy to have few breakdowns when you only manufacture about 50 combines a year.
 

T__langan

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And building 5,000 is an excuse for poor quality and performanceIJ A small leak will eventually sink a big ship! Just remember that! Tom langan
 

Illinois_Gleaner

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They made alot more for you green guys though just look on the
 

tbran

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We can all go mug some CEOs ! IJ ! IJ !(sorry but its the only thing that comes to mind) As much as I hate govt . they must do a better job in protecting our major source of exports and the people that produce them. The only balance of trade hope we have ! I have written -emailed - them all; have yous guysIJ
 

T__langan

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Of course, Deere has to make 100 combines for every Gleaner made to do the same amount of work what with all the problems you fellers have with your Greenies. That more than likely explains the difference in production. Tom langan
 
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