Few yearsIJ........Heck man, it's already getting to the point where it's almost as worthless and common as the masseys. You ain't telling me nothing I don't already know and had anticipated. When I get done with this 9600 I'll send you a picture because if it didn't get rolled or burned to collect insurance it's going to the tree row maybe in another 20 years. Slick tires, rusty gull wings, probably more silver tape than galvenizing on a gleaner and smoke worse than a perkins with a plugged filter. Deere split thier own throat overproducing these things......I'm just going to sit back now and watch how they try to recover. It cost massey because of thier sorry quality control. If you read on the deere page what dakota said about thier sts it sounds like deere is on thier way as well. Take care Deerebines