Unless the "Hurtt" has been put to the R72! And the Hyper, and the Brannon, etc. Remember Grasshopper, the Kitty is a mere class VII but a properly "tweaked" R72 would be a class VIII if such a class existed! As I told you before - Open the mind's eye! See Brian's post. What amazes me about the American farmer is that he wouldn't take a 2nd look at a Claas lexion but since CAT put a calf dung yellow paint job over the pea green Claas paint, now it's the answer to the American harvest in some guy's opinion. Tom langan