Big Al, You are right, you don't know anything about harvesting rice. No comparison to corn. Rice is cut green and is very hard to feed and thresh, not to mention the field is often muddy. There were 2 8010's sold here locally last year. Neither worked properly, either in soybeans or rice. They had so much trouble with them that both farmers gave them back and got new 2388's. None are available for sale in around here, and don't know when they will be. A CaseIH salesman friend of mine was telling me that next year is the last year for the 2388, and they are worried because so far the 8010 hasn't worked here.