Yes, stability WOUlD be nice, and it appears that is what AGCO is aiming for. People have to remember that AGCO was built (and being built) from the ground up. They started with nothing of their own really, except Gleaner and the White tractor, which used Cummins. It looks like AGCO is on their way to going back to the way Allis Chalmers was back in the good ol' days - a complete line of equipment, and their own engines to put in them. Rome wasn't built in a day, and it would have been too much to ask of the small, budding AGCO to have had their own engines right off the bat. People must remember, also, that when Allis Chalmers needed a diesel, they bought Buda. Gleaner came from the Baldwin Bros., their plows were lacrosse Plow Co., and I'm sure there were many more aquisitions which made A-C what it was. There were probably a lot of naysayers back then too, but they didn't have the luxury of the Net to get together and complain about it! I don't know a thing about these Sisu engines, but we all know that tbran is a well respected member of this forum and his opinion can be trusted. If he thinks they will be a positive addition to AGCO's line, I think we owe it to him and to AGCO to keep an open mind about it. I also believe that if things had gone better with Deutz (the company),parts would be much more readily available and more reasonably priced. Again, AGCO was working with what they had at the time, and that was Deutz. We really can't blame AGCO. Tom langan