Combines When is the Next new combine coming

[TOM]

Yes and Yes 2002 product intro for AllIS and GlEANER- styling, cab updates and enhancements are planned_

 

[T__langan]

I sure don't see the need for anything bigger than what is currently available until grain handling systems are increased in capacity. Seems everyone with large combines complain that there is no place to go with the grain. I would sure think that there are so few places set up to keep up to these monsters that it wouldn't be economically feasible to produce them. But they sure would be impressive to see run!

 

[Illinois_Gleaner]

They were talking about a Cat that has 575 hp

 

[T__langan]

Yes, I seen the pics that Marv has on here somewhere. Very impressive looking machine - much different than anything on the market right now. And knowing New Holland, there will be several innovative features on it too. I think NH doesn't get enough credit for their forward-looking designs and features. The Genesis paved the way for all makes of tractors in terms of innovative features yet they don't seem to get much credit for it. I bet this new combine will be the same way. NH is like the modern-day Allis Chalmers - Allis never really got the credit they deserved for their designs and concepts.

 

[Massey_Man]

Just what were all these innovative features found on a Allis,I really don't know.

 

[Dairyman]

Down front cylinder, integral rock door, compact machine size for easier storage_transport, rotary combine without 90* gearboxes, first 12-row cornhead, remaining true to the principle of center-mounted cab, rear mounted engine. I know Massey has many firsts also, it's just that we're proud Allis was a leader and not a follower like JD. Other Allis innovations: rotating PTO shield, multiple v-belt drive (banded v-belts),power adjust wheel spacing (I've seen a lot of Massey tractors with these type of wheels),round baler, no-till planter, rubber tires on tractors, front unload manure spreader (look at Knight, Gehl and New Holland spreaders now). This is history and has nothing to do with AGCO, but A-C was the only company in the democratic world with the ability to build a hydroelectric power plant from start to finish. They had cement kilns, crawlers, turbines and generators. Even today the mighty CAT, GE, GM and JD can't do that...

 

[acre_eater]

How about rubber tires air and oil filters and turbochargers

 

[Brand]

There are dozens of innovations on the older tractors and equipment, but I'll leave those up to the others to describe. What impresses me most about Allis-Chalmers is that in the early 80's they had a tractor which was 20 years ahead of its time in terms of cab comfort, reliability and serviceability. Certainly the best tractor on the market at that time and probably just as good as some of the ones out there today. Put today's electronics into an 8000 and AGCO would have a tractor second to none. Without a doubt it would be better than some of the tractors they piece together today which have lots of MF features. The less Massey design on AGCO's equipment the better. Massey's reputation for crappy high-horsepower tractors will tarnish them forever. In the combine department I would argue that for 30 years A-C has built the simplest and most productive machine on the market. It seems that A-C was always thinking ahead when they engineered something. Perhaps that's the reason they had there fair share of lemons. Some of the innovation was probably released a little too early. If the N combines were fine-tuned better before being produced imagine what Gleaner would be today if they hadn't had to battle the N's reputation.

 

[gunner]

were was this power plant built. I didn't know that.

 

[johnboy]

Brandon, you seem to have a hate relationship with massey tractors.Yes the older ones did have problems with the rear end,but we have had two new ones and are happy with them althougth getting power to the ground is a problem sometimes but around here Deere,Case,Ford all have the same problems when pulling trailed implements in our heavey clay soils.I do spend a fair bit of time on a Mx and i find that the power shift controls on the massey are better for constant stop_start work but they are both great tractors as is the Deere.The point is Massey is huge in Europe and Allis small where as it's the oppersite in Nth. America. The truth is that Agco needs Massey and that Massey needs Agco to survive in this hard world of farming. John