Hey Silverbullet, have you actually looked at the specs of the Deutz Era GleanersIJ Simplified is not the word, CHEAP is! Deutz bought and destroyed AC and almost Gleaner before Agco took over. Try and find an 82 or newer N or R in the salvage yard. Then the 2 series R's(Agco),not there! Early N's are everywhere as are the Deutz R series, most of them with blown or burned up engines and spun bearings on shafts. AC and Agco had_have them right, Deutz just made them as cheap as possible(remember they were in financial trouble from 86-90 the way they ran Allis). And the R50 is much lighter built than the 52 throughout the machine. I have been on 2 Gleaner tours and when Deutz was making them, the staff even mentioned they were downgraded from AC, and since Agco took over, the staff said they have been upgraded in quality. When my AC Gleaner dies of old age and use, it will be renewed with an Agco Gleaner.