Combines WAKE UP CASE

[SIlVER_DOllAR_SAlOON]

maybe 1 or 2 years production of the 2388 left. once the bugs are out of the 8010, look for the 70 series. buy them while they last.

 

[FarmBuddy]

When I see an AFX8010 it makes me wonder what CNH was thinking when they put that long a feederhouse out front and_or the front axle set so far backIJ Yeah, I suppose they were trying to correct the feeding problems associated with green stem beans and the "short steep" feederhouse on the 2388. Also probably trying to give the EU farmers better visibility to the cut stubble for their lodged small grain conditions. But this sure creates heavy front axle loads and high front tire loading when you have a large cornhead up front, a full tank up above and low fule and light rear end. The other big blunder with the big AFX8010 seems to be the steeper transition cone associated with the wider feederhouse. Why would they try to feed a swirling crop back into a "steeper funnel" against the laws of physics. Maybe they wanted a "grinder" up frontIJ Throw in many modular multi pin connectors between each module and a Rube Goldberg tailings return rethreshing system and few bad bearing and you have a self propelled cigarette lighter that gets stuck in the mud. Overall the AFX8010 is a pretty good demonstation of what can be created when trying to adapt the functional components from NH into a new red axial flow combine on a pretty tight budget in a short amount of time. It's like the sign on the Elmer's Repair shop: You can have GOOD, or FAST or CHEAP repairs (or products),in groups of any two at a time, but never all three together. GOOD and FAST repairs will not be CHEAP. FAST and CHEAP repairs will not be GOOD. GOOD and CHEAP repairs will not be done FAST, They can be attained if allowed plenty of time to find the right parts at the right price.

 

[magnum_man]

Actualy the center of the axle to back of header is 10 inches closer then a STS. The STS has a much bigger problem with front axle loads and handling than an 8010. I drove both and the 8010 was a better handling machine.

 

[Big_Green]

I think most would want them to iron them out so we dont have to, esp. if they new the had some "ironing" to do!!!

 

[Big_Green]

Yea, our 79 N6 scared us from silver!!!

 

[Chads]

It's pretty easy to forget. But the Deere 9000 series combines had over 450 updates their first two years! I don't think the 8010's will require near that much attention, and they are much more of a major step forward in technology than those combines were. The Deere 7000 series tractors required a recall because of a poor design of the transmission lines, that any small amount of testing should have found. It's hard to make up for all the field conditions stuff gets put under in testing. The 2388 design has been around for generations, and is pretty well ironed out. A tad of patience is called for. There's a good reason that CaseIH wasn't trying to sell this combine enmasse, and still isn't. Chads

 

[chads]

What's your problems with the MX'sIJ like to know, cause we're looking at one. As for the lBX balers, they're the old NH design, and never were that great, but I'd be interested to know what problems you're having. We bought a new RBX this year, and it's awesome. It got me more custome work than anything else I ever did. Chads

 

[Big_Green]

If i was building something that cost 250,000 I would get it right.

 

[Old_Pokey]

Big Green that is probably the most valid and best statment made about the 8010 so far. There is no exuse for the problems it is having other than just plain poor managment.

 

[FR]

Do not tell me about paitence I have had axial flows since the first 1460 in 1978 I have had well over a dozen and this 8010 is a joke. You say there not pushing they had one with my name on last year already and I would not take it did not want all the problems for first year production and I do not care how many updates Deere had this is unexceppable