Combines WAKE UP CASE

[Case_Farmer]

Id like to know what wrong with the Magnums We have a 2002 MX 200 and its a awesome tractor

 

[Case_Farmer]

I wish everyone would remember the 8010's been out for a year and it might take 3-4 years and plus you don't have to buy one let some other patient person perfect the beast lol Just my 2 cents

 

[Chads]

The dealers in my area absolutely are not pushing to have the 8010's sold, neither is the block man. The block man for my area had three 8010's sold, and he said he felt that would be plenty to keep up with. They knew they would probably have issues. Remeber, IH had a limited run of Axial flows in 78 too, and it took them another 2 years to introduce the 80's and three to introduce the 20's. Unacceptable would be if your dealer sold you the thing and hung you with it, never showed up when there was a problem. I haven't heard of one single instance where that was the case. Chads

 

[Big_Green]

Do you work 4 CNHIJ

 

[MDJ]

Well said Chads! Our dealer support has been phenomenal on ours. Too bad not the case with FR. We have had all colors with new products, and CaseIH is second to none on product support. This includes Deere And Cat.

 

[bookem]

I think it would be a great embarrassment for case to have such a machine out in the country,The farmers that spent $250,000 + bought these with one thing in mind ,Productivity ! They should recall all the machines makes all updates at no expense to the farmers . It still won't make up for the downtime experienced by those that have one . Too bad case once again is asleep at the wheel . By the way I have all red equipment.

 

[dakota]

I drove an MX270 last year in corn harvest on a grain cart and compared it to our 8320. The MX had about 4000 hours on. At first we had to take the three point of to be able to push the wheels in far enough to fit 30' rows (done by dealer). The front duals were taken off to fit the rows. Than we had to get the PTO fixed. After several attempts the service tech replaced the control unit - $1400. From driving I experienced, that it does not have the power like our 8320 (MX on 1040 Kinze, JD on 1050 Kinze cart) and shifts much rougher. I think the shift pattern on the Deere (for and back instead of sideways) makes more sense. The spool valves on the MX could not be feathered. It was either full speed or nothing, while the JD lets you slow down before the auger hits the stop.

 

[FR]

Exactly my feelings Bookem I do not like being taken advantage of and Case did just that if it was not going to work why sell the Pig my dealer is great at fixing it but there is no parts for them always wait for next day air to get parts. The 3 that were sold last year I talked to them owners and they were happy with there machines last year then traded for 2004 and had lots of trouble with the new ones that they did not have with old ones I wonder if Case switched venders and thats when the prolems started and also more stress on combine from a wet fall and harvest. And for you people that think I should have paitence thats hard to do if you bought this machine to harvest 1000s of acers maybe you can but I need my crop out thats why I bought it give me a check and you can wait it out but I wont it will be gone!

 

[dakota]

I have not meassured it, but I know the front axle is way too far back on a Deere. When the front axle bounces a couple of inches it translates into feet on the cutter bar. Especially in this age with the rough notill fields. What were the engineers thinkingIJ Other colors are not much better. You put a 12row cornhead on and fill a 300+ bushel bin, all the weight winds up on the front tires. That is 52,000 lbs on a 9660 walker and not much less on a 9600. It's a miracle they don't blow out.

 

[dakota]

That is a desireable result, but very difficult to achieve, because so many different departments are working on such a complex product as a combine. The thing I always wonder about, why do engineers listen to and watch the people so little who operate and experience their productIJ I am an engineer myself and have been stuck in between the customer and the design department at least once. My experience always was, that the design engineers thought they were too smart to communicate with the operators. I am a custom harvester now and like to tell this example: In fall 2002 we bought a 1050 Kinze cart, a new product then. Kinze used the same PTO sheer bolt as they did on their 1040 cart trying to run twice the auger. It didn't take much to keep sheer bolts on hand and it got updated that winter. In summer 03 the hydraulic cylinder folding the auger broke out of its brackets on both ends. Kinze replaced the whole unloader tube without making any changes. This summer the exact same thing happened again. This fall we bought another 1050. The bottom bracket for the cylinder now has the reinforcement we have welded onto the old cart already twice. The top end is still the old weak design and waiting to break. Its strength could be tripled for less than $100 per cart, but the design department has not done it. There are no complaints about Kinze's service. So far they have fixed everything. But the design flaws is costing them money and causes trouble for the customer every day. Why do the engineers not come outIJ Why don't they have a reliable customer test it right and than improve it before they start selling the productIJ