Combines current combine market share

rosco

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Mondo, Yeah I knew that lindeman bought JD powertrains and put his own tracks under them, but the book I have said that JD bought him out after a period of time. It could be wrong. As for Wagner, kilbury and Macdon, they were 3 companies that I said worked with JD, not bought by JD. You can read this about versatile. Don Wadge knows a heck of a lot about the versatile company. www.versatile-tractors.com_Discussion__disc8_0000009b.htm As for redekop, who do you think makes the fine-cut and wide spread choppers for JDIJIJ And yes, I agree that competition is great if you are the buyer, but a monopoly is great if you are the seller of a hot thing!
 

rosco

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sunnybrook has nothing to do with agco, other than you can buy sunnybrook components for gleaners. Deere, along with a couple other companies(forget which),has marketing agreements with sunnybrook. By this i mean that if you want a new sunnybrook piece for your deere combine, you can only buy it from JD.
 

tobaboy

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We bought a new HW 320 in '03 and found the Macdon's at the time, to be priced at a premium to the HW. If they had been comparably priced we would have gone with the Macdon, we should have anyways, the HW has been terrible.
 

TwinSilvers

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Hello John, I'm not disputing that AGCO has good product; - it's just that they've "accumulated" almost all of thier technology, and have yet to have really dfeveloped anything new. Fendt tractors, hesston balers and Massey rotary combines_tractors were All excellent products before AGCO acquired them, and have changed little since thier acquisition. I will say, however, that I believe AGCO is (finally) starting to refine the Massey rotary combines a little.
 

TwinSilvers

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From what my AGCO dealer told me, the AGCOSTAR's demise originated when the Coldwater, Ohio plant closed; - AGCO no longer had a tractor plant in North America. He mentioned that the large 4WD market will be addressed since AGCO acquired the CAT tracked-tractor plant, and he predicts AGCO will be offering something in the near future. As far as the C62_8680 conventional combines are concerned, you can still buy them, but they're NOT a well-designed combine. Great in small grains but a "train-wreck" to setup in corn or beans. I had many "nickel and dime" problems with mine.
 

tobaboy

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I saw pictures of a CAT_challenger tractor with rubber tires a year ago, I wonder whats come of thatIJ
 

TwinSilvers

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I never saw that pic. Maybe CAT contemplated the "rubber-tire Tractor" market when they lost the "tracked-Tractor" lawsuit against Deere, who knowsIJ I did, however, see a primative prototype of a 4955 Deere with tracks. I think it was either at FarmPhoto.com or geocities.com_agmachinery.
 

TwinSilvers

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I think you're confusing Sunnybrook with Sunflower. Sunflower is owned by AGCO!
 

riceman

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My Massey dealer tells me that the Agcostar will be reintroduced in the next year or 2 with the Fendt Vario transmission. A few exist now and are going through testing. If land leveling crews will be open minded, it will be a big thing. I live in an area where lots of precision leveling and zero grading is done each year.
 

TwinSilvers

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I hope they re-introduce the AGCOSTAR; - my friend has a Massey 4840 (similar to an AGCOSTAR) and I thought it was a pretty fair unit. Did your Massey dealer tell you where they were going to build the new AGCOSTARIJ I heard they were going to harness a CAT powertrain (from a tracked tractor) to the articulate frame of the AGCOSTAR, but that's "hear-say"!